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From: Bram Cohen <bram@bittorrent•com>
To: Peter Todd <pete@petertodd•org>
Cc: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion <bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] A Better MMR Definition
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2017 18:50:10 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+KqGkrOK76S3ffPJmpqYcBwtSeKESqN16yZsrwzDR6JZZmwFA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170224010943.GA29218@savin.petertodd.org>

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On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 5:09 PM, Peter Todd <pete@petertodd•org> wrote:

> I think you've misunderstood what TXO commitments are. From my article:
>
> "A merkle tree committing to the state of all transaction outputs, both
> spent
> and unspent, can provide a method of compactly proving the current state
> of an
> output."
> -https://petertodd.org/2016/delayed-txo-commitments#txo-commitments:
>

The proposal on that page is of a tree which does require random access
updates, it just positions entries in the order they happened to be added
instead of sorting by their hash. Once you start updating it to indicate
spent status all the exact same issues of TXO size and cache coherence on
updates show up again, but now you're using a more complex bespoke data
structure instead of a basic fundamental one.

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-02-24  2:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-23  1:15 Peter Todd
2017-02-23  3:07 ` Bram Cohen
2017-02-23  7:41   ` Peter Todd
2017-02-23 17:53 ` Chris Priest
2017-02-23 18:19   ` Peter Todd
2017-02-23 18:28     ` G. Andrew Stone
2017-02-23 18:31       ` Peter Todd
2017-02-23 23:13   ` Bram Cohen
2017-02-23 23:51     ` Peter Todd
2017-02-24  0:49       ` Bram Cohen
2017-02-24  1:09         ` Peter Todd
2017-02-24  2:50           ` Bram Cohen [this message]
2017-02-24  2:58             ` Peter Todd
2017-02-24  3:02               ` Bram Cohen
2017-02-24  3:15                 ` Peter Todd
2017-02-24  3:32                   ` Bram Cohen
2017-02-24  4:36                     ` Peter Todd
2017-02-24 22:20                       ` Bram Cohen
2017-02-25  4:12                         ` Peter Todd
2017-02-25  6:23                           ` Bram Cohen
2017-02-28 16:43                             ` G. Andrew Stone
2017-02-28 23:10                               ` Bram Cohen
2017-02-28 23:24                                 ` Pieter Wuille
2017-03-01  1:47                                   ` Bram Cohen
2017-03-01  1:56                                     ` Peter Todd
2017-03-01 22:31                             ` Peter Todd
2017-03-31 20:38                               ` Bram Cohen
2017-04-01 10:18                                 ` praxeology_guy
2017-04-01 19:46                                   ` praxeology_guy

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