From: Lonero Foundation <loneroassociation@gmail•com>
To: Devrandom <c1.devrandom@niftybox•net>
Cc: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion <bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] BIP Proposal: Consensus (hard fork) PoST Datastore for Energy Efficient Mining
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2021 11:16:13 -0500 [thread overview]
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Also in regards to my other email, I forgot to iterate that my cryptography
proposal helps behind the efficiency category but also tackles problems
such as NP-Completeness or Halting which is something the BTC network could
be vulnerable to in the future. For sake of simplicity, I do want to do
this BIP because it tackles lots of the issues in regards to this manner
and can provide useful insight to the community. If things such as bigger
block height have been proposed as hard forks, I feel at the very least an
upgrade regarding the hashing algorithm and cryptography does at least
warrant some discussion. Anyways I hope I can send you my BIP, just let me
know on the preferred format?
Best regards, Andrew
On Fri, Mar 5, 2021, 10:12 AM Lonero Foundation <loneroassociation@gmail•com>
wrote:
> Hi, this isn't about the energy efficient argument in regards to
> renewables or mining devices but a better cryptography layer to get the
> most out of your hashing for validation. I do understand the arbitrariness
> of it, but do want to still propose a document. Do I use the Media Wiki
> format on GitHub and just attach it as my proposal?
>
> Best regards, Andrew
>
> On Fri, Mar 5, 2021, 10:07 AM Devrandom <c1.devrandom@niftybox•net> wrote:
>
>> Hi Ryan and Andrew,
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 5, 2021 at 5:42 AM Ryan Grant via bitcoin-dev <
>> bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> https://www.truthcoin.info/blog/pow-cheapest/
>>> "Nothing is Cheaper than Proof of Work"
>>> on | 04 Aug 2015
>>>
>>>
>> Just to belabor this a bit, the paper demonstrates that the mining market
>> will tend to expend resources equivalent to miner reward. It does not
>> prove that mining work has to expend *energy* as a primary cost.
>>
>> Some might argue that energy expenditure has negative externalities and
>> that we should move to other resources. I would argue that the negative
>> externalities will go away soon because of the move to renewables, so the
>> point is likely moot.
>>
>>
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Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-03-04 23:42 Lonero Foundation
2021-03-05 13:42 ` Ryan Grant
[not found] ` <CAB0O3SVNyr_t23Y0LyT0mSaf6LONFRLYJ8qzO7rcdJFnrGccFw@mail.gmail.com>
2021-03-05 15:12 ` Lonero Foundation
2021-03-05 16:16 ` Lonero Foundation [this message]
2021-03-05 21:11 ` Keagan McClelland
2021-03-05 21:21 ` Lonero Foundation
2021-03-06 0:41 ` Keagan McClelland
2021-03-06 0:57 ` Lonero Foundation
2021-03-06 15:21 ` Ricardo Filipe
[not found] ` <CA+YkXXyP=BQ_a42J=RE7HJFcJ73atyrt4KWKUG8LbsbW=u4b5w@mail.gmail.com>
2021-03-08 23:40 ` Lonero Foundation
2021-03-11 15:29 ` Lonero Foundation
2021-03-12 15:02 ` Erik Aronesty
2021-03-12 16:54 ` Lonero Foundation
2021-03-12 22:37 ` email
2021-03-12 23:21 ` Lonero Foundation
2021-03-12 23:31 ` Lonero Foundation
2021-03-13 8:13 ` email
2021-03-13 15:02 ` Lonero Foundation
2021-03-13 15:45 ` yancy
2021-03-13 17:11 ` Lonero Foundation
2021-03-13 19:44 ` email
2021-03-14 5:45 ` Lonero Foundation
2021-03-17 0:24 ` Erik Aronesty
2021-03-17 5:05 ` ZmnSCPxj
2021-03-17 5:59 ` Lonero Foundation
2021-03-17 6:56 ` ZmnSCPxj
2021-03-17 7:06 ` Lonero Foundation
2021-03-14 12:36 ` LORD HIS EXCELLENCY JAMES HRMH
2021-03-14 14:32 ` Thomas Hartman
2021-03-16 18:22 ` Lonero Foundation
2021-03-15 2:02 ` Eric Martindale
2021-03-15 2:32 ` Lonero Foundation
[not found] ` <CA+YkXXyMUQtdSvjuMPQO71LpPb8qFdy-LTSrA8FEbeWMbPWa4w@mail.gmail.com>
2021-03-15 2:58 ` Lonero Foundation
2021-03-05 20:53 Eric Voskuil
[not found] <CA+YkXXzfEyeXYMyPKL20S+2VVRZVuHRT6eRgX56FBgG_A+uVSw@mail.gmail.com>
[not found] ` <12480994-451A-4256-8EFA-4741B3EC2006@voskuil.org>
2021-03-05 22:03 ` Lonero Foundation
2021-03-05 22:49 ` Eric Voskuil
2021-03-05 23:10 ` Lonero Foundation
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