Anthony, On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 6:55 PM, Anthony Towns via bitcoin-dev < bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: > On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 04:51:19PM +0100, sickpig--- via bitcoin-dev wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 2:09 PM, Jorge Timón wrote: > > > Unless I'm missing something, 2 mb x4 = 8mb, so bip102 + SW is already > > > equivalent to the 2-4-8 "compromise" proposal [...] > > isn't SegWit gain ~75%? hence 2mb x 1.75 = 3.5. > > Segwit as proposed gives a 75% *discount* to witness data with the > same limit, so at a 1MB limit, that might give you (eg) 2.05MB made up > of 650kB of base block data plus 1.4MB of witness data; where 650kB + > 1.4MB/4 = 1MB at the 1MB limit; or 4.1MB made up of 1.3MB of base plus > 2.8MB of witness, for 1.3MB+2.8MB/4 = 2MB at a 2MB limit. > > > 4x is theoric gain you get in case of 2-2 multisig txs. > > With segregated witness, 2-2 multisig transactions are made up of 94B > of base data, plus about 214B of witness data; discounting the witness > data by 75% gives 94+214/4=148 bytes. That compares to about 301B for > a 2-2 multisig transaction with P2SH rather than segwit, and 301/148 > gives about a 2.03x gain, not a 4x gain. A 2.05x gain is what I assumed > to get the numbers above. > > You get further improvements with, eg, 3-of-3 multisig, but to get > the full, theoretical 4x gain you'd need a fairly degenerate looking > transaction. > > Pay to public key hash with segwit lets you move about half the > transaction data into the witness, giving about a 1.6x improvement by > my count (eg 1.6MB = 800kB of base data plus 800kB of witness data, > where 800kB+800kB/4=1MB), so I think a gain of between 1.6 and 2.0 is > a reasonable expectation to have for the proposed segwit scheme overall. > > many thanks for the explanation. so it should be fair to say that BIP 102 + SW would bring a gain between 2*1.6 and 2*2. Just for the sake of simplicity if we take the middle of the interval we could say that BIP102 + SW will bring us a max block (virtual) size equal to 1MB * 2 * 1.8 = 3.6 Is it right?