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From: Kaz Wesley <keziahw@gmail•com>
To: Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell@gmail•com>
Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-development@lists•sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Squashing redundant tx data in blocks on the wire
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 14:41:33 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+iPb=Fa4YSTjPuCfyWy0wB2XBV=Mi99G3Hb84gjy+muNDin+g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAS2fgS-KiP-tiy91Ah2hJ0pepA0OJDCG+Bv+redFtsqrUTevQ@mail.gmail.com>

> the need to have transmitted the transaction list [..] first

32 bits per transaction is at least double the communication overhead
of the simple approach, and only offers a bound on the probability of
needing a round trip.

On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell@gmail•com> wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 1:47 PM, Kaz Wesley <keziahw@gmail•com> wrote:
>> trip to request the missing tx; if we could somehow get the "What's
>> the Difference" approach to effectively operate on full transactions
>> instead
>
> I explain how to do this on the network block coding page.
>
> Given that you know the sizes and orders of the transactions (e.g.
> from a reconciliation step first), the sender sends non-syndromic
> forward error correcting code data somewhat larger than their estimate
> of how much data the user is missing.  Then you drop the data you know
> into place and then recover the missing blocks using the fec.
>
> There is no overhead in this approach except for FEC blocks that are
> incompletely missing (and so must be completely discarded), and the
> need to have the transmitted the transaction list and sizes first.
> (note, that just more bandwidth, not an additional round trip).



  reply	other threads:[~2014-07-31 21:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-07-17 21:35 Kaz Wesley
2014-07-17 22:46 ` Gavin Andresen
2014-07-17 23:26   ` Kaz Wesley
2014-07-18 13:53   ` Jeff Garzik
2014-07-18 14:53     ` Gavin Andresen
2014-07-18 15:06       ` Jeff Garzik
2014-07-18 17:39         ` Kaz Wesley
2014-07-18 17:48           ` Jeff Garzik
2014-07-18 17:53             ` Kaz Wesley
2014-07-18 19:51               ` Kaz Wesley
2014-07-18 19:55                 ` Jeff Garzik
2014-07-19  0:54                   ` Emin Gün Sirer
2014-07-19  1:25                     ` Gregory Maxwell
2014-07-19  3:06                       ` Emin Gün Sirer
2014-07-19  6:48                         ` Gregory Maxwell
2014-07-19  8:06       ` Wladimir
2014-07-17 23:34 ` Gregory Maxwell
     [not found] ` <CABsx9T2PSa3MpfMMDCb8ACVF5vDOZOFLEK9zfP9PakgHA4U16w@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]   ` <CAPkFh0vKFnKRE-sd-Z9t1zB73VLPsiaQ3o=OYgBqqtUE4_rTaw@mail.gmail.com>
2014-07-31 20:47     ` Kaz Wesley
2014-07-31 21:29       ` Gregory Maxwell
2014-07-31 21:41         ` Kaz Wesley [this message]
2014-07-31 21:51           ` Gregory Maxwell
2014-07-31 22:27             ` Kaz Wesley
2014-07-31 23:18               ` Gregory Maxwell
2014-08-01  1:00                 ` Kaz Wesley

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