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From: Wladimir <laanwj@gmail•com>
To: Andreas Schildbach <andreas@schildbach•de>
Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-development@lists•sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] BIP 70 refund field
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2014 12:38:51 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+s+GJCf9o6VEky=JXgrG8v39hyQtPz71yuftF_jyp0bX9WHsA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <lh3m7i$v18$1@ger.gmane.org>

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On Fri, Mar 28, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Andreas Schildbach
<andreas@schildbach•de>wrote:

> I see the problem.
>
> However, I don't see how PaymentDetails can be an answer. None of the
> fields (other than outputs and network) can be known in advance (at the
> time of the initial payment).
>
> You're probably aiming for an expires field? How would you refund a
> payment after expiry? Note its not your choice wether to refund a
> payment -- it can be ordered by a court years after the payment happened.
>

Communication between the merchant and buyer would be needed in this case.

I'd say that would be not unreasonable if something is to be refunded after
a year or more. After all, people may have moved, bank accounts changed,
even outside the bitcoin world.

It should probably not be accepted to set a very low expiration time for
the refund address, like <3 months, as it's as bad as not providing a
refund address at all and brings back all the pre-BIP70 confusion.

Wladimir

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-03-28 11:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-03-28 11:07 Mike Hearn
2014-03-28 11:25 ` Andreas Schildbach
2014-03-28 11:31   ` Mike Hearn
2014-03-28 16:59     ` Andreas Schildbach
2014-03-28 18:19       ` Mike Hearn
2014-03-28 20:56         ` Andreas Schildbach
2014-03-29  9:27           ` Roy Badami
2014-03-29 13:29             ` Mike Hearn
2014-03-30 17:21               ` Andreas Schildbach
2014-03-28 11:38   ` Wladimir [this message]
2014-03-28 11:45     ` Tamas Blummer
2014-03-28 11:46       ` Mike Hearn
2014-03-28 11:54         ` Tamas Blummer
2014-03-28 12:27           ` Mike Hearn
2014-03-28 12:55             ` Tamas Blummer
2014-03-28 13:00               ` Mike Hearn
2014-03-28 13:09                 ` Tamas Blummer
2014-03-28 11:30 ` Tamas Blummer
2014-03-28 13:18   ` Tamas Blummer
2014-03-28 14:01     ` Gavin Andresen
2014-03-28 14:06       ` Mike Hearn
2014-03-28 14:27       ` Tamas Blummer
2014-03-28 15:23         ` Mike Hearn
2014-03-28 15:26           ` Tamas Blummer
2014-03-28 16:34             ` Mike Hearn
2014-03-28 16:45               ` Tamas Blummer
2014-03-31  9:23 ` Peter Todd

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