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From: Gregory Maxwell <greg@xiph•org>
To: Daniel Hoffman <danielhoffman699@gmail•com>,
	 Bitcoin Protocol Discussion
	<bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] BIP Number Request: Addresses over Audio
Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2016 02:14:42 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAAS2fgR-weACn_Ezg8-uZuSH0QT5dfLEFE5WO2VDi0nx8H1e9g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAL9WuQXsbBJ0UwdS+o=UqJCcsebcPa9Ug5A=uNtc6Z+9CNEFPg@mail.gmail.com>

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On Tue, Aug 9, 2016 at 11:06 PM, Daniel Hoffman via bitcoin-dev <
bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org> wrote:

> I have updated the GitHub a lot (changed tones to be less chirpy, fixed
> some smalls) and made a couple of samples (see attachment for MP3 and FLAC
> of both tone tables, first 16 then 4). Is this good enough to warrant an
> official BIP number? I haven't built a decoder yet, but it seems like the
> encoder is working properly (looked at Audacity, seems like it is working),
> and some people on reddit want to "allow for decoding experiments"
> <https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/4wsn7v/bip_proposal_addresses_over_audio_thoughts/d69m3st>
>
> What suggestions do you all have for it?
>


With DSP hat on, your decoder for noisy/distorted channels will be 99.9% of
the complexity and will completely control the design of the encoder.

It's not a proposal yet without a decoder, it's just an idea.  FSK modems
microphone-channel (terrible multipath) is quite challenging and several
other parties have tried to do bitcoin info over audio in the past without
success.

It's very interesting, but I think you do need to go through and get the
whole thing working to really gauge viability.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-08-10  2:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-08-08 21:22 Daniel Hoffman
2016-08-08 22:06 ` Justin Newton
2016-08-08 22:35   ` Daniel Hoffman
2016-08-08 22:59   ` Trevin Hofmann
2016-08-09  1:50     ` Daniel Hoffman
2016-08-09 23:06       ` Daniel Hoffman
2016-08-10  0:17         ` Jannes Faber
2016-08-10  0:27         ` Chris Riley
2016-08-10  0:36         ` Luke Dashjr
2016-08-10  1:09         ` Thomas Daede
2016-08-10  1:53           ` Daniel Hoffman
2016-08-10  2:14         ` Gregory Maxwell [this message]
2016-08-10 10:41           ` Tier Nolan
2016-08-10 11:42             ` Erik Aronesty
2016-08-10 11:49               ` Theo Chino
2016-08-10 16:01                 ` Daniel Hoffman
2016-08-10 17:28                   ` Erik Aronesty
2016-08-10 17:38                     ` Pieter Wuille
2016-08-10 17:55                       ` Daniel Hoffman
2016-08-10 22:31                         ` James MacWhyte
2016-08-11 13:55                       ` Erik Aronesty
2016-08-11 15:13                         ` Tier Nolan
2016-08-11 20:37                           ` Erik Aronesty
2016-08-12  0:36                             ` Gregory Maxwell
2016-08-12 12:36                               ` Erik Aronesty
2016-08-12 15:49                                 ` Jorge Timón
2016-08-12 18:39                                 ` James MacWhyte
2016-08-13  4:41                                   ` Daniel Hoffman

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