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From: Greg Maxwell <gmaxwell@gmail•com>
To: Aiden McClelland <me@drbonez•dev>
Cc: Bitcoin Development Mailing List <bitcoindev@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [bitcoindev] [BIP Proposal] Mempool Validation and Relay Policies via User-Defined Scripts
Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2025 22:49:11 +0000	[thread overview]
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So that when the "consistent state" changes as a result of some issue you
can update configs instead of having to update software-- which has
considerable more costs and risks, especially if you're carrying local
customizations as many miners do.


On Wed, Sep 24, 2025 at 8:47 PM Aiden McClelland <me@drbonez•dev> wrote:

> If mempool consistency across the network is all that is important, why
> allow any configuration of mempool relay policies at all?
>
> On Wednesday, September 24, 2025 at 12:47:28 PM UTC-6 Greg Maxwell wrote:
>
>> This appears to substantially misunderstands the purpose of the mempool
>> broadly in the network-- it's purpose is to model what will get mined.  If
>> you're not doing that you might as well set blocks only.
>> Significant discrepancies are harmful to the system and promote
>> centralization and fail to achieve a useful purpose in any case.  What
>> marginal benefits might be provided do not justify building and deploying
>> the technological infrastructure for massive censorship.
>>
>> If you think this is important, I advise you to select another
>> cryptocurrency which is compatible with such authoritarian leanings.  --
>> though I am unsure if any exist since it is such a transparently pointless
>> direction.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 24, 2025 at 6:30 PM Aiden McClelland <m...@drbonez•dev>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I'd like to share for discussion a draft BIP to allow for a modular
>>> mempool/relay policy: https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/pull/1985
>>>
>>> I think it could potentially reduce conflict within the community around
>>> relay policy, as an alternative to running lots of different node
>>> implementations/forks when there are disagreements.
>>>
>>> I am working on a reference implementation using Bellard's QuickJS, but
>>> it has been almost a decade since I've written C++, so it's slow going and
>>> I'm sure doesn't follow best-practices. Once it's working, it can be
>>> cleaned up.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Aiden McClelland
>>>
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  reply	other threads:[~2025-09-24 22:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-24 18:18 Aiden McClelland
2025-09-24 18:46 ` Greg Maxwell
2025-09-24 18:54   ` Aiden McClelland
2025-09-24 22:49     ` Greg Maxwell [this message]
2025-09-24 19:16   ` Chris Guida
2025-09-24 20:01     ` Greg Maxwell

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