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From: Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell@gmail•com>
To: Wladimir <laanwj@gmail•com>
Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-development@lists•sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Chain pruning
Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 05:10:35 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAAS2fgStmEpiUV4Yh-qqu6sZ+VZ5SiQPwp+QA=3X5zR52ia3OA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+s+GJDbYjwhpsV15a+7kCO_vTstEewVrwvqbnB=a5zOSwFC6Q@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 4:57 AM, Wladimir <laanwj@gmail•com> wrote:
> Just wondering: Would there be a use for a [static] node that, say, always
> serves only the first 100000 blocks? Or, even, a static range like block
> 100000 - 200000?

The last time we discussed this sipa collected data based on how often
blocks were feteched as a function of their depth and there was a huge
increase for recent blocks that didn't really level out until 2000
blocks or so— presumably its not uncommon for nodes to be offline for
a week or two at a time.

But sure I could see a fixed range as also being a useful contribution
though I'm struggling to figure out what set of constraints would
leave a node without following the consensus?   Obviously it has
bandwidth if you're expecting to contribute much in serving those
historic blocks... and verifying is reasonably cpu cheap with fast
ecdsa code.   Maybe it has a lot of read only storage?

I think it should be possible to express and use such a thing in the
protocol even if I'm currently unsure as to why you wouldn't do 100000
- 200000  _plus_ the most recent 144 that you were already keeping
around for reorgs.

In terms of peer selection, if the blocks you need aren't covered by
the nodes you're currently connected to I think you'd prefer to seek
node nodes which have the least rare-ness in the ranges they offer.
E.g. if you're looking for a block 50 from the tip,  you're should
probably not prefer to fetch it from someone with blocks 100000-150000
if its one of only 100 nodes that has that range.



  reply	other threads:[~2014-04-10 12:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-04-10 11:37 Mike Hearn
2014-04-10 11:57 ` Wladimir
2014-04-10 12:10   ` Gregory Maxwell [this message]
2014-04-10 14:19     ` Wladimir
2014-04-10 16:23       ` Brian Hoffman
2014-04-10 16:28         ` Mike Hearn
2014-04-10 16:47           ` Brian Hoffman
2014-04-10 16:54             ` Ricardo Filipe
2014-04-10 16:56               ` Brian Hoffman
2014-04-10 16:59             ` Pieter Wuille
2014-04-10 17:06               ` Brian Hoffman
2014-04-10 18:19               ` Paul Rabahy
2014-04-10 18:32                 ` Pieter Wuille
2014-04-10 20:12                   ` Tier Nolan
2014-04-10 20:29                     ` Pieter Wuille
2014-04-10 19:36                 ` Mark Friedenbach
2014-04-10 21:34               ` Jesus Cea
2014-04-10 22:15                 ` Mark Friedenbach
2014-04-10 22:24                   ` Jesus Cea
2014-04-10 22:33                     ` Gregory Maxwell
2014-04-10 16:52           ` Ricardo Filipe

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