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From: Gregory Maxwell <greg@xiph•org>
To: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Schnorr signatures BIP
Date: Wed, 5 Sep 2018 15:35:14 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAAS2fgT0uBGbLBOW4TxA-qCzOLwoQ1qSV-R0dMKRzPLAm_UOqQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJowKg+PDtEV3je_N9Ra6u3n4+ZQ3ozYapt8ivxGYYU28Qad+w@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Sep 5, 2018 at 1:49 PM Erik Aronesty via bitcoin-dev
<bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> Detailed explanation with code snippets:
>
> https://medium.com/@simulx/an-m-of-n-bitcoin-multisig-scheme-[snip]

This appears to be a repost of the broken scheme you posted about on
Bitcointalk, but then failed to respond to the response.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4973123.0

> The more I look into it and speak to professors about i, the more it seems "so trivial nobody really talks about it".

I think you might be falling into the trap of ignoring feedback you
don't like and and accepting that which sounds like "yea yea,
something like that".

Something "like that" does work: and is expressly and explicitly
anticipated by the BIP but to be both secure and functional requires
proper delineation (E.g. musig) _and_ interaction. What you're
proposing is continually vague.  My best efforts at making sense of
what you've written indicate that either it's non-interactive and
not-actually functional at all,  OR it's interactive and just a less
secure subset (no proper delinearization to prevent rogue key attacks)
of what we already propose.

When Poelstra suggests a CAS implementation he means something like
this Sage notebook: http://bitcoin.ninja/secp256k1.ecdsa.sage  This
provides for a method of communicating in both directions which is
completely precise.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-09-05 15:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-06 18:08 Pieter Wuille
2018-07-06 21:05 ` Russell O'Connor
2018-07-06 22:00   ` Gregory Maxwell
2018-07-06 22:01     ` Gregory Maxwell
2018-07-08 14:36     ` Russell O'Connor
2018-07-14 15:42 ` Sjors Provoost
2018-07-14 21:20   ` Pieter Wuille
2018-08-04 12:22     ` Russell O'Connor
2018-08-05 14:33       ` Russell O'Connor
2018-08-06  8:39         ` Anthony Towns
2018-08-06 14:00           ` Russell O'Connor
2018-08-06 21:12 ` Tim Ruffing
2018-08-12 16:37   ` Andrew Poelstra
2018-08-29 12:09     ` Erik Aronesty
2018-09-03  0:05       ` Andrew Poelstra
2018-09-05 12:26         ` Erik Aronesty
2018-09-05 13:05           ` Andrew Poelstra
2018-09-05 13:14             ` Erik Aronesty
2018-09-05 15:35           ` Gregory Maxwell [this message]
2018-09-11 16:34             ` Erik Aronesty
2018-09-11 17:00               ` Gregory Maxwell
2018-09-11 17:20                 ` Erik Aronesty
2018-09-11 17:27                   ` Gregory Maxwell
2018-09-11 17:37                     ` Erik Aronesty
2018-09-11 17:51                       ` Gregory Maxwell
2018-09-11 18:30                         ` Erik Aronesty
2018-09-13 18:46                       ` Andrew Poelstra
2018-09-13 20:20                         ` Erik Aronesty
2018-09-14 14:38                           ` Andrew Poelstra
2018-09-20 21:12 ` Russell O'Connor
2018-07-07  2:47 Артём Литвинович

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