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From: Chris Priest <cp368202@ohiou•edu>
To: Jonas Schnelli <dev@jonasschnelli•ch>,
	 Bitcoin Protocol Discussion
	<bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Committed bloom filters for improved wallet performance and SPV security
Date: Wed, 4 Jan 2017 23:06:36 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAAcC9ysdaK1DqBBRvBM=7uHFnM7WW23R61v68xrAMj3rWJfqdg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f335731c-3928-6694-5ed8-aa1999b401f1@jonasschnelli.ch>

On 1/3/17, Jonas Schnelli via bitcoin-dev
<bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>
> There are plenty, more sane options. If you can't run your own full-node
> as a merchant (trivial), maybe co-use a wallet-service with centralized
> verification (maybe use two of them), I guess Copay would be one of
> those wallets (as an example). Use them in watch-only mode.

The best way is to connect to the mempool of each miner and check to
see if they have your txid in their mempool.

https://www.antpool.com/api/is_in_mempool?txid=334847bb...
https://www.f2pool.com/api/is_in_mempool?txid=334847bb...
https://bw.com/api/is_in_mempool?txid=334847bb...
https://bitfury.com/api/is_in_mempool?txid=334847bb...
https://btcc.com/api/is_in_mempool?txid=334847bb...

If each of these services return "True", and you know those services
so not engage in RBF, then you can assume with great confidence that
your transaction will be in the next block, or in a block very soon.
If any one of those services return "False", then you must assume that
it is possible that there is a double spend floating around, and that
you should wait to see if that tx gets confirmed. The problem is that
not every pool runs such a service to check the contents of their
mempool...

This is an example of mining centralization increasing the security of
zero confirm. If more people mined, this method will not work as well
because it would require you to call the API of hundreds of different
potential block creators.


  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-01-05  7:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-05-09  8:26 bfd
2016-05-09  8:57 ` Gregory Maxwell
2016-05-11 20:06 ` Bob McElrath
2016-05-11 20:29   ` Bob McElrath
2016-07-28 21:07     ` Leo Wandersleb
2017-01-06 22:07       ` Erik Aronesty
2017-01-03 20:24     ` bfd
     [not found] ` <77b6dd25-0603-a0bd-6a9e-38098e5cb19d@jonasschnelli.ch>
2017-01-03 20:18   ` bfd
2017-01-03 22:18     ` Aaron Voisine
2017-01-03 22:28       ` bfd
2017-01-03 23:06       ` adiabat
2017-01-03 23:46         ` Aaron Voisine
2017-01-04  0:10           ` bfd
2017-01-04  0:36             ` Aaron Voisine
2017-01-04  6:06               ` Eric Voskuil
2017-01-04 16:13         ` Leo Wandersleb
2017-01-04  7:47       ` Jonas Schnelli
2017-01-04  8:56         ` Aaron Voisine
2017-01-04 10:13           ` Jorge Timón
2017-01-04 11:00             ` Adam Back
2017-01-06  2:15           ` bfd
2017-01-06  7:07             ` Aaron Voisine
2017-01-05  7:06         ` Chris Priest [this message]
2017-01-05  7:45           ` Eric Voskuil
2017-01-05 14:48             ` Christian Decker
2017-01-06 20:15             ` Chris Priest
2017-01-06 21:35               ` James MacWhyte
2017-01-06 21:50                 ` Eric Voskuil
2017-01-06  2:04           ` bfd
2017-03-15 22:36             ` Tom Harding
2017-03-16  0:25               ` bfd
2017-03-16 15:05                 ` Tom Harding
2017-02-17  0:28 ` Chris Belcher
2017-04-01 23:49   ` bfd

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