public inbox for bitcoindev@googlegroups.com
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Natanael <natanael.l@gmail•com>
To: Mike Hearn <mike@plan99•net>
Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-development@lists•sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Standardizing automatic pre-negotiation of transaction terms with BIP70? (Emulating Amazon one-click purchase at all merchants)
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2015 12:19:56 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAAt2M19F2fWj7Ovw_aWvJ5+7osQG6WA=RuT3G+QYiYm-mnNnyg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANEZrP2LhgFWWJYQGO+XbDX1o5=hwPtFbE+etEHoQo+3AfUSrA@mail.gmail.com>

[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1646 bytes --]

Den 10 feb 2015 12:08 skrev "Mike Hearn" <mike@plan99•net>:
>
> We can certainly imagine many BIP70 extensions, but for things like
auto-filling shipping addresses, is the wallet the best place to do it? My
browser already knows how to fill out this data in credit card forms, it
would make sense to reuse that for Bitcoin.
>
> It sounds like you want a kind of Star-Trek negotiation agent thing,
where your computer knows how to seek out the best deal because all the
metadata is standardised. Such a thing would be an interesting project, but
it's probably not best done in BIP70 given how it's deployed and used
today. Rather, I'd suggest looking at the various HTML5 data standards
which would allow merchants to advertise things like where they ship to in
a machine readable and crawlable form.

BIP70 doesn't have to be the place, but not needing to make sure the device
in question have that information stored already would be an improvement.
What protocol is used doesn't matter much, I just thought reusing BIP70
would simplify implementation.

HTML5 elements could definitely be supported, through adding a tag in the
HTML form that says "prompt the Bitcoin wallet about the following payment
details".

As one example, your browser could ask your hardware wallet over BLE for
this data. This way you barely have to trust the computer you're using at
all, as everything it does is confirmed on the hardware wallet before
payment (assuming it has a screen, which it should). Linking your hardware
wallet over BLE to new devices which you then use for browsing and shopping
could  be trivial and yet allow secure auto-fill of this kind.

[-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 1844 bytes --]

  reply	other threads:[~2015-02-10 11:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <CAAt2M18H0K99bmD4H_FRSeE+O9nGFDruCmo63GOQt1kxAdVBmQ@mail.gmail.com>
2015-02-10 10:21 ` Natanael
2015-02-10 10:34   ` MⒶrtin HⒶboⓋštiak
2015-02-10 10:41     ` Natanael
2015-02-10 10:48       ` MⒶrtin HⒶboⓋštiak
2015-02-10 11:12         ` Natanael
2015-02-10 11:21           ` MⒶrtin HⒶboⓋštiak
2015-02-10 10:50       ` Oleg Andreev
2015-02-10 10:59       ` Eric Voskuil
2015-02-10 11:08   ` Mike Hearn
2015-02-10 11:19     ` Natanael [this message]
2015-02-10 11:33       ` MⒶrtin HⒶboⓋštiak
2015-02-10 11:58         ` Natanael

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to='CAAt2M19F2fWj7Ovw_aWvJ5+7osQG6WA=RuT3G+QYiYm-mnNnyg@mail.gmail.com' \
    --to=natanael.l@gmail$(echo .)com \
    --cc=bitcoin-development@lists$(echo .)sourceforge.net \
    --cc=mike@plan99$(echo .)net \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox