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From: Natanael <natanael.l@gmail•com>
To: Andy Schroder <info@andyschroder•com>
Cc: bitcoin-development@lists•sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Bitcoin at POS using BIP70, NFC and offline payments - implementer feedback
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2015 10:13:34 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAAt2M19zerAMCtbfSjv=kmBy_GoW16mp8Bd-wrhCs9_Vj3b1-g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54EAD884.8000205@AndySchroder.com>

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Den 23 feb 2015 08:38 skrev "Andy Schroder" <info@andyschroder•com>:
>
> I agree that NFC is the best we have as far as a trust anchor that you
are paying the right person. The thing I am worried about is the privacy
loss that could happen if there is someone passively monitoring the
connection. So, in response to some of your comments below and also in
response to some of Eric Voskuil's comments in another recent e-mail:

From the sources I can find NFC don't provide full privacy, but some
modulations are MITM resistant to varying degrees, some aren't at all, and
they are all susceptible to denial of service via jammers.

If the merchant system monitors the signal strength and similar metrics, a
MITM that alters data (or attempts to) should be detectable, allowing it to
shut down the connection.

Using NFC for key exchange to establish an encrypted link should IMHO be
secure enough.

http://resources.infosecinstitute.com/near-field-communication-nfc-technology-vulnerabilities-and-principal-attack-schema/

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-02-23  9:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-02-22 19:08 Jan Vornberger
2015-02-22 22:37 ` Andy Schroder
2015-02-22 23:06   ` Eric Voskuil
2015-02-22 23:32     ` Andy Schroder
2015-02-23  0:05       ` Eric Voskuil
2015-02-23  1:02       ` Andreas Schildbach
2015-02-23  7:36         ` Andy Schroder
2015-02-23  9:13           ` Natanael [this message]
2015-02-23  9:40           ` Eric Voskuil
2015-02-24  2:55             ` Eric Voskuil
2015-02-24  5:53               ` Andy Schroder
2015-02-24 11:28                 ` Eric Voskuil
2015-02-24 19:49                   ` Andy Schroder
2015-02-24 22:14                     ` Eric Voskuil
2015-02-24 22:50                       ` Andy Schroder
2015-02-25  2:09                         ` Eric Voskuil
2015-02-28  9:46                           ` Andy Schroder
2015-02-23  9:49           ` Andreas Schildbach
2015-02-23 10:08             ` Eric Voskuil
2015-02-23 10:58               ` Mike Hearn
2015-02-23 11:58                 ` Andreas Schildbach
2015-02-23 12:18                   ` Mike Hearn
2015-02-23 12:30                     ` Andreas Schildbach
2015-02-23 23:00                 ` Eric Voskuil
2015-02-23 23:11                   ` Mike Hearn
2015-02-24  0:10                     ` Eric Voskuil
2015-02-24 10:41                       ` Mike Hearn
2015-02-26 12:30                         ` Andreas Schildbach
2015-03-03  0:54                           ` Eric Voskuil
2015-02-23  0:58   ` Andreas Schildbach
2015-02-23 15:09   ` Jan Vornberger
2015-02-23 16:59     ` Mike Hearn
2015-02-23 19:56       ` Jan Vornberger
2015-02-23 20:31         ` Mike Hearn
2015-02-24  6:14     ` Andy Schroder
2015-02-24 15:41       ` Jan Vornberger
2015-02-26 12:37     ` Andreas Schildbach
2015-02-22 22:39 ` Eric Voskuil
2015-02-22 22:48   ` Eric Voskuil
2015-02-22 23:35     ` Andy Schroder
2015-02-23  0:46       ` Eric Voskuil
2015-02-23  1:05   ` Andreas Schildbach
2015-02-23  1:55     ` Aaron Voisine
2015-02-23  0:48 ` Andreas Schildbach
     [not found] <54ED2F34.8090704@voskuil.org>
     [not found] ` <54ED3150.4020800@AndySchroder.com>
     [not found]   ` <54ED7D8B.5070903@schildbach.de>
2015-02-25  9:20     ` Eric Voskuil

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