It is when you're talking about making a choice and 6.3x more people prefer something else. Doing nothing is a choice as well. Put another way, if 10% supported increasing the 21M coin cap and 63% were against, would you seriously consider doing it? On Feb 8, 2017 9:57 AM, "alp alp" wrote: > 10% is not a tiny minority. > > On Feb 8, 2017 9:51 AM, "Andrew Johnson" > wrote: > >> You're never going to reach 100% agreement, and stifling the network >> literally forever to please a tiny minority is daft. >> >> On Feb 8, 2017 8:52 AM, "alp alp via bitcoin-dev" < >> bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: >> >> 10% say literally never. That seems like a significant >> disenfranchisement and lack of consensus. >> >> On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 2:25 PM, t. khan via bitcoin-dev < >> bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: >> >>> On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 2:53 PM, Luke Dashjr wrote: >>> >>>> On Monday, February 06, 2017 6:19:43 PM you wrote: >>>> > >My BIP draft didn't make progress because the community opposes any >>>> block >>>> > >size increase hardfork ever. >>>> > >>>> > Luke, how do you know the community opposes that? Specifically, how >>>> did you >>>> > come to this conclusion? >>>> >>>> http://www.strawpoll.me/12228388/r >>> >>> >>> That poll shows 63% of votes want a larger than 1 MB block by this >>> summer. How do you go from that to "the community opposes any block >>> increase ever"? It shows the exact opposite of that. >>> >>> >>>> > >Your version doesn't address the current block size >>>> > >issues (ie, the blocks being too large). >>>> > >>>> > Why do you think blocks are "too large"? Please cite some evidence. >>>> I've >>>> > asked this before and you ignored it, but an answer would be helpful >>>> to the >>>> > discussion. >>>> >>>> Full node count is far below the safe minimum of 85% of economic >>>> activity. >>>> >>> >>> Is this causing a problem now? If so, what? >>> >>> >>>> Typically reasons given for people not using full nodes themselves come >>>> down >>>> to the high resource requirements caused by the block size. >>> >>> >>> The reason people stop running nodes is because there's no incentive to >>> counteract the resource costs. Attempting to solve this by making blocks >>> *smaller* is like curing a disease by killing the patient. (Incentivizing >>> full node operation would fix that problem.) >>> >>> - t.k. >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> bitcoin-dev mailing list >>> bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org >>> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> bitcoin-dev mailing list >> bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org >> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev >> >> >>