So, to be clear, you didn't design speedy trial "to make everyone unhappy" as Ryan claims, no? That's a really strange claim on his part. When the grace period for slower activation after lock in was added, I don't think it was added to make me or people like me who dislike that proposal unhappy. On the contrary, I think the goal was precisely to address some of our concerns. But it doesn't address them all, as I've tried to explain other times. I truly think you wanted to make everyone happy with speedy trial, but you didn't do it, sorry. I know it' not a lack of capacity because you did impressive and genius things like simplicity. But despite your best intentions and your great capacity, I still think speedy trial is a very bad proposal because you got the analysis wrong. Let me reiterate that this is not attack against you, but only against one of your ideas. Sorry if I sounded sarcastic, but I was trying to be sarcastic with ryan, not with you. On Fri, May 6, 2022 at 8:24 PM Russell O'Connor via bitcoin-dev < bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: > On Fri, May 6, 2022 at 2:01 PM Jorge Timón via bitcoin-dev < > bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: > >> >> Russell O'Connor wrote the definitive explanation for how ST arose in >>> the consensus process and how it was designed to make everyone >>> unhappy. It's a great explanation of what we went through last year. >>> >>> https://r6.ca/blog/20210615T191422Z.html >>> >>> "On Building Consensus and Speedy Trial" >>> >>> on | 2021-06-15T19:14:22Z >>> by | Russell O'Connor >>> >> >> That's a lot of text, are you sure he said in there he designed speedy >> trial to make everyone unhappy? >> Well, if we're still talking about it, that proves that it failed at its >> own design criterion of failing fast. >> > > Quoting from https://r6.ca/blog/20210615T191422Z.html: > > > Speedy Trial’s design is not based on any sort of activation philosophy > about failing fast. > _______________________________________________ > bitcoin-dev mailing list > bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev >