From: "Jorge Timón" <jtimon@jtimon•cc>
To: NxtChg <nxtchg@hush•com>
Cc: bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] The need for larger blocks
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 13:04:24 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CABm2gDpnzjph5SKTf+8GWgwe+njS=k2GNm9uL73RC-EV=Y5wug@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150627102912.06E2641A3E@smtp.hushmail.com>
On Sat, Jun 27, 2015 at 12:29 PM, NxtChg <nxtchg@hush•com> wrote:
>
> On 6/27/2015 at 1:04 PM, "Wladimir J. van der Laan" <laanwj@gmail•com> wrote:
>
>> Then you won't risk the other 'passengers' who don't consent to it.
>
> But you can look at it the other way: what about risking the 'passengers' when the plane suddenly doesn't fly anymore?
>
> Increasing block limit increases the risk of centralization, but it also keeps the current status quo of blocks not being filled, rather then risking an unknown option of hitting the limit hard.
But that option is not unknown, that's the point of this thread.
"Doing nothing" would require to fix the mempool to scale with the
number of unconfirmed transaction. This is something that we will
eventually have to fix unless the plan is to eventually remove the
blocksize limit.
What will happen with full blocks is that fees will likely rise and
the transactions with bigger fees will get confirmed first. This is
something that will eventually happen unless the blocksize limit is
removed before ever being hit.
What this thread is saying is that this option (the so-called "doing
nothing" option, which actually requires more work than any of the
current proposals for increasing the blocksize) is perfectly valid,
which is in contradiction to a perceived "need to increase the
blocksize limit soon". Increasing the block size is only an option,
not a "need". And changing the consensus rules and forcing everybody
to adapt their software to the changes is certainly not "maintaining
the status quo", I'm getting tired of hearing that absurd notion.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-06-27 11:04 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-06-26 14:09 Pieter Wuille
2015-06-26 14:38 ` Venzen Khaosan
2015-06-26 15:22 ` Milly Bitcoin
2015-06-26 15:24 ` Pieter Wuille
2015-06-26 18:05 ` Jeff Garzik
2015-06-26 18:32 ` Milly Bitcoin
2015-06-26 15:38 ` Tom Harding
2015-06-26 16:22 ` Venzen Khaosan
2015-06-26 17:04 ` Tom Harding
2015-06-26 17:55 ` Gavin Andresen
2015-06-26 17:57 ` Jeff Garzik
2015-06-26 18:12 ` Pieter Wuille
2015-06-26 18:23 ` Jeff Garzik
2015-06-26 18:31 ` Mark Friedenbach
2015-06-26 19:05 ` Aaron Voisine
2015-06-26 18:34 ` Pieter Wuille
2015-06-26 19:18 ` Ross Nicoll
2015-06-26 19:36 ` Peter Todd
2015-06-27 6:13 ` Filipe Farinha
2015-06-27 7:14 ` Aaron Voisine
2015-06-27 15:13 ` Peter Todd
2015-06-27 19:40 ` Aaron Voisine
2015-06-26 18:47 ` Patrick Strateman
2015-06-26 19:03 ` Tier Nolan
2015-06-26 19:12 ` Mark Friedenbach
2015-06-26 20:44 ` Owen Gunden
2015-06-27 2:18 ` Eric Lombrozo
2015-06-27 2:54 ` Eric Lombrozo
2015-06-27 8:16 ` Venzen Khaosan
2015-06-26 18:29 ` Alex Morcos
2015-06-27 7:43 ` Wladimir J. van der Laan
2015-06-27 9:55 ` NxtChg
2015-06-27 10:04 ` Wladimir J. van der Laan
2015-06-27 10:29 ` NxtChg
2015-06-27 11:04 ` Jorge Timón [this message]
2015-06-27 11:18 ` Eric Lombrozo
2015-06-27 11:43 ` Jorge Timón
2015-06-27 12:10 ` NxtChg
2015-06-28 12:13 ` Jorge Timón
2015-06-28 13:51 ` Ivan Brightly
2015-06-28 14:13 ` Eric Lombrozo
2015-06-28 14:16 ` Eric Lombrozo
2015-06-28 14:22 ` Ivan Brightly
2015-06-28 15:05 ` Jorge Timón
2015-06-28 16:01 ` Ivan Brightly
2015-06-28 15:28 ` s7r
2015-06-28 15:45 ` Jorge Timón
2015-06-27 10:19 ` Venzen Khaosan
2015-06-27 19:55 ` Aaron Voisine
2015-06-28 16:37 ` Venzen Khaosan
2015-06-28 20:56 ` Aaron Voisine
2015-06-27 10:13 ` Jorge Timón
2015-06-27 12:09 ` Wladimir J. van der Laan
2015-06-27 12:15 ` NxtChg
2015-06-27 12:17 ` Greg Sanders
2015-06-27 12:25 ` NxtChg
2015-06-27 12:35 ` Greg Sanders
2015-06-27 12:25 ` Wladimir J. van der Laan
2015-06-27 12:50 ` NxtChg
2015-06-27 13:01 ` Wladimir J. van der Laan
2015-06-28 12:03 ` Jorge Timón
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