From: "Jorge Timón" <jtimon@jtimon•cc>
To: Natanael <natanael.l@gmail•com>
Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Segwit2Mb - combined soft/hard fork - Request For Comments
Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2017 16:07:32 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CABm2gDqw2TayGvaH_nz3jrF8Cz2V=SbB4begD6+K=Ye=Msw4mg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAt2M19PvHLY0PA6iy+wiPg10vqONDApTLDuxzEcte=KUZLoaQ@mail.gmail.com>
On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 3:15 PM, Natanael <natanael.l@gmail•com> wrote:
>
>
> Den 1 apr. 2017 14:33 skrev "Jorge Timón via bitcoin-dev"
> <bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org>:
>
> Segwit replaces the 1 mb size limit with a weight limit of 4 mb.
>
>
> That would make it a hardfork, not a softfork, if done exactly as you say.
>
> Segwit only separates out signature data. The 1 MB limit remains, but would
> now only cover the contents of the transaction scripts. With segwit that
> means we have two (2) size limits, not one. This is important to remember.
> Even with segwit + MAST for large complex scripts, there's still going to be
> a very low limit to the total number of possible transactions per block. And
> not all transactions will get the same space savings.
No, because of the way the weight is calculated, it is impossible to
create a block that old nodes would perceive as bigger than 1 mb
without also violating the weight limit.
After segwit activation, nodes supporting segwit don't need to
validate the 1 mb size limit anymore as long as they validate the
weight limit. The weight is also the only notion of cost miners need
to consider when comparing txs by feerate (fee per cost, before segwit
tx_fee/tx_size, post-segwit tx_fee/tx_weight).
This is important to remember, because having 2 separated limits or
costs would make block creation and relay policies much harder to
implement.
Therefore a hardfork after segwit can just increase the weight limit
and completely forget about the pre-segwit 1 mb size limit.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-04-01 14:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-03-31 21:09 Sergio Demian Lerner
2017-03-31 21:18 ` Matt Corallo
2017-03-31 21:22 ` praxeology_guy
2017-03-31 21:50 ` Sergio Demian Lerner
2017-03-31 21:22 ` Matt Corallo
2017-03-31 22:13 ` Sergio Demian Lerner
2017-04-01 3:03 ` Samson Mow
2017-04-01 3:35 ` Sergio Demian Lerner
2017-06-02 20:04 ` Erik Aronesty
2017-04-01 6:55 ` Jared Lee Richardson
2017-04-01 11:44 ` Sergio Demian Lerner
2017-04-01 12:33 ` Jorge Timón
2017-04-01 13:15 ` Natanael
2017-04-01 14:07 ` Jorge Timón [this message]
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[not found] ` <CAAt2M18=Tjw+05QCv6G7Abv=idB6ONgU9xvtrR=fn731452_mg@mail.gmail.com>
2017-04-01 15:34 ` Natanael
2017-04-02 4:57 ` Jorge Timón
2017-04-02 10:03 ` Natanael
2017-04-02 11:43 ` Jorge Timón
2017-06-02 20:04 ` Erik Aronesty
2017-06-02 21:51 ` Sergio Demian Lerner
2017-06-03 0:53 ` Erik Aronesty
2017-06-03 2:03 ` Oliver Petruzel
2017-06-03 21:05 ` Oliver Petruzel
2017-04-03 14:40 ` Btc Drak
2017-04-06 2:27 ` Erik Aronesty
2017-04-06 20:58 ` Sergio Demian Lerner
2017-04-06 20:42 ` Sergio Demian Lerner
2017-04-06 21:03 ` Sergio Demian Lerner
2017-04-06 22:29 ` Aymeric Vitte
2017-06-02 12:29 ` R E Broadley
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