* [Bitcoin-development] Adding callback hooks to the satoshi client
@ 2012-03-22 5:13 Eric Lombrozo
2012-03-22 5:24 ` Matt Corallo
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From: Eric Lombrozo @ 2012-03-22 5:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: bitcoin-development
Hey, guys.
I've been writing a number of apps that require realtime event
notifications, where the JSON-RPC API clearly doesn't suffice.
There are two approaches I've been taking to this end:
1) Writing my own library for dealing with raw bitcoin structures and
connecting to bitcoin nodes via the bitcoin protocol.
2) Making custom builds of the satoshi client putting callback hooks
in key points.
Neither of these two approaches is ideal. (1) involves a lot of code
duplication, (2) involves patching the satoshi client source
each time I grab a later version, with the everpresent risk of
something breaking and the need to continue maintaining these patches.
Moreover, unfortunately many of these key points happen to be in files
like main.cpp which see frequent changes.
I would like to propose adding these callback hooks to the main
branch. I am willing to help locate these key points, reorganize the
code
to place these methods in separate source files, define a callback
mechanism, and contribute source code.
-Eric Lombrozo
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* Re: [Bitcoin-development] Adding callback hooks to the satoshi client
2012-03-22 5:13 [Bitcoin-development] Adding callback hooks to the satoshi client Eric Lombrozo
@ 2012-03-22 5:24 ` Matt Corallo
2012-03-22 5:39 ` bitcoin-list
2012-03-22 14:00 ` Luke-Jr
2 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Matt Corallo @ 2012-03-22 5:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: bitcoin-development
I spent some time changing the internal bitcoin code to use callback
hooks, but its far from complete (or even really usable from anything
other than the code in the satoshi client itself, it doesnt even have
any deregister methods!). As it sits now, it is likely to get more
eyeballs and merged for 0.7. If you need additional specific callbacks,
adding them would be cool, though I wouldn't recommend relying on the
blockstore API to remain even remotely stable for the foreseeable
future.
https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/771
Matt
On Wed, 2012-03-21 at 22:13 -0700, Eric Lombrozo wrote:
> Hey, guys.
>
> I've been writing a number of apps that require realtime event
> notifications, where the JSON-RPC API clearly doesn't suffice.
>
> There are two approaches I've been taking to this end:
>
> 1) Writing my own library for dealing with raw bitcoin structures and
> connecting to bitcoin nodes via the bitcoin protocol.
> 2) Making custom builds of the satoshi client putting callback hooks
> in key points.
>
> Neither of these two approaches is ideal. (1) involves a lot of code
> duplication, (2) involves patching the satoshi client source
> each time I grab a later version, with the everpresent risk of
> something breaking and the need to continue maintaining these patches.
> Moreover, unfortunately many of these key points happen to be in files
> like main.cpp which see frequent changes.
>
> I would like to propose adding these callback hooks to the main
> branch. I am willing to help locate these key points, reorganize the
> code
> to place these methods in separate source files, define a callback
> mechanism, and contribute source code.
>
> -Eric Lombrozo
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* Re: [Bitcoin-development] Adding callback hooks to the satoshi client
2012-03-22 5:13 [Bitcoin-development] Adding callback hooks to the satoshi client Eric Lombrozo
2012-03-22 5:24 ` Matt Corallo
@ 2012-03-22 5:39 ` bitcoin-list
2012-03-22 9:56 ` Michael Grønager
2012-03-22 14:00 ` Luke-Jr
2 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: bitcoin-list @ 2012-03-22 5:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: bitcoin-development
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You might also want to check out libcoin. Its a fork of the satoshi client: https://github.com/ceptacle/libcoin
Matt
Eric Lombrozo <elombrozo@gmail•com> wrote:
Hey, guys.
I've been writing a number of apps that require realtime event
notifications, where the JSON-RPC API clearly doesn't suffice.
There are two approaches I've been taking to this end:
1) Writing my own library for dealing with raw bitcoin structures and
connecting to bitcoin nodes via the bitcoin protocol.
2) Making custom builds of the satoshi client putting callback hooks
in key points.
Neither of these two approaches is ideal. (1) involves a lot of code
duplication, (2) involves patching the satoshi client source
each time I grab a later version, with the everpresent risk of
something breaking and the need to continue maintaining these patches.
Moreover, unfortunately many of these key points happen to be in files
like main.cpp which see frequent changes.
I would like to propose adding these callback hooks to the main
branch. I am willing to help locate these key points, reorganize the
code
to place these methods in separate source files, define a callback
mechanism, and contribute source code.
-Eric Lombrozo
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* Re: [Bitcoin-development] Adding callback hooks to the satoshi client
2012-03-22 5:39 ` bitcoin-list
@ 2012-03-22 9:56 ` Michael Grønager
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From: Michael Grønager @ 2012-03-22 9:56 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: bitcoin-list; +Cc: bitcoin-development
Hi Eric,
What hooks are you looking for in particular ?
libcoin supports registration of listeners for new blocks and new transactions. These are e.g. used for connecting the Wallet to the Node.
Cheers,
M
On 22/03/2012, at 06:39, bitcoin-list@bluematt•me wrote:
> You might also want to check out libcoin. Its a fork of the satoshi client: https://github.com/ceptacle/libcoin
>
> Matt
>
> Eric Lombrozo <elombrozo@gmail•com> wrote:
> Hey, guys.
>
> I've been writing a number of apps that require realtime event
> notifications, where the JSON-RPC API clearly doesn't suffice.
>
> There are two approaches I've been taking to this end:
>
> 1) Writing my own library for dealing with raw bitcoin structures and
> connecting to bitcoin nodes via the bitcoin protocol.
> 2) Making custom builds of the satoshi client putting callback hooks
> in key points.
>
> Neither of these two approaches is ideal. (1) involves a lot of code
> duplication, (2) involves patching the satoshi client source
> each time I grab a later version, with the everpresent risk of
> something breaking and the need to continue maintaining these patches.
> Moreover, unfortunately many of these key points happen to be in files
> like main.cpp which see frequent changes.
>
> I would like to propose adding these
> callback hooks to the main
>
> branch. I am willing to help locate these key points, reorganize the
> code
> to place these methods in separate source files, define a callback
> mechanism, and contribute source code.
>
> -Eric Lombrozo
>
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* Re: [Bitcoin-development] Adding callback hooks to the satoshi client
2012-03-22 5:13 [Bitcoin-development] Adding callback hooks to the satoshi client Eric Lombrozo
2012-03-22 5:24 ` Matt Corallo
2012-03-22 5:39 ` bitcoin-list
@ 2012-03-22 14:00 ` Luke-Jr
2012-03-22 15:23 ` Eric Lombrozo
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From: Luke-Jr @ 2012-03-22 14:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: bitcoin-development
On Thursday, March 22, 2012 1:13:13 AM Eric Lombrozo wrote:
> I would like to propose adding these callback hooks to the main
> branch. I am willing to help locate these key points, reorganize the
> code to place these methods in separate source files, define a callback
> mechanism, and contribute source code.
I'm not sure it's a good idea to let other code into the main wallet-handling
process/memory space. I'd suggest looking into designing a workable Wallet
Protocol for general use between the wallet and GUIs/applications.
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Wallet_protocol has a draft I made a long time ago,
but really seems a bit overcomplicated.
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* Re: [Bitcoin-development] Adding callback hooks to the satoshi client
2012-03-22 14:00 ` Luke-Jr
@ 2012-03-22 15:23 ` Eric Lombrozo
2012-03-24 8:41 ` Eric Lombrozo
0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Eric Lombrozo @ 2012-03-22 15:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: bitcoin-development
The callback architecture could be such that other code would never
need to enter into the wallet-handling process/memory space. For
instance, client applications could subscribe a particular URL to get
sent an HTTP POST.
For the apps I've been working on, there really isn't any need to
access the wallet space. I was talking more about events like "A new
transaction was just seen" or "A new block was just seen", like what
libcoin seems to support (sorry, Michael, I haven't really had a
chance to look at it in depth but I will). Then there are other types
of events for other bitcoin messages could also be useful: new addr,
new node connected, node disconnected, bitcoin alert, etc...
Then there are events for dealing with potential attacks: DoS attempt,
double-spend attempts (two transactions seen with valid signatures
claiming the same output), node sending malformed messages, etc...
And then there are alerts pertaining to the status of the bitcoind
process itself: bitcoind started, bitcoind ready to accept
connections, bitcoind stopping, etc...
None of these events require the callback subscriber to have any
access to the bitcoind process/memory space and all the I/O could be
done via IPC or over network sockets.
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* Re: [Bitcoin-development] Adding callback hooks to the satoshi client
2012-03-22 15:23 ` Eric Lombrozo
@ 2012-03-24 8:41 ` Eric Lombrozo
0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: Eric Lombrozo @ 2012-03-24 8:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: bitcoin-development
I'd also like to be able to get detailed information of message format
errors for debugging other nodes that connect to bitcoind. For
instance, if a transaction is rejected because the signature is
invalid, I want to know this. If it's because the amount is out of
range or because the output couldn't be connected, I want to know
this, too. I especially want to know if it was because the transaction
is claiming an output that has already been claimed by another
transaction.
For now, I've had to resort to sticking tracers and stubs into
bitcoind. It would be really nice to not only be able to write an
error log but to also let the connecting node know what went wrong.
Obviously these types of messages should *not* be part of the bitcoin
protocol itself since it invites all kinds of attacks. But it would be
wonderful to have a side channel for this type of data, and it could
also be done using callbacks.
The callback mechanism could be configurable in a similar fashion to
the RPC in the bitcoin.conf file.
-Eric Lombrozo
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