I think this needs more details before it gets a BIP number; for example, which opcodes does this affect, and how, exactly, does it affect them? Is the merkle root in the block header computed using normalized transaction ids or normalized ids? I think there might actually be two or three or four BIPs here: + Overall "what is trying to be accomplished" + Changes to the OP_*SIG* opcodes + Changes to the bloom-filtering SPV support + ...eventually, hard fork rollout plan I also think that it is a good idea to have actually implemented a proposal before getting a BIP number. At least, I find that actually writing the code often turns up issues I hadn't considered when thinking about the problem at a high level. And I STRONGLY believe BIPs should be descriptive ("here is how this thing works") not proscriptive ("here's how I think we should all do it"). Finally: I like the idea of moving to a normalized txid. But it might make sense to bundle that change with a bigger change to OP_CHECKSIG; see Greg Maxwell's excellent talk about his current thoughts on that topic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs9lJTRZCDc On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 9:12 AM, Tier Nolan wrote: > I think this is a good way to handle things, but as you say, it is a hard > fork. > > CHECKLOCKTIMEVERIFY covers many of the use cases, but it would be nice to > fix malleability once and for all. > > This has the effect of doubling the size of the UTXO database. At > minimum, there needs to be a legacy txid to normalized txid map in the > database. > > An addition to the BIP would eliminate the need for the 2nd index. You > could require a SPV proof of the spending transaction to be included with > legacy transactions. This would allow clients to verify that the > normalized txid matched the legacy id. > > The OutPoint would be {LegacyId | SPV Proof to spending tx | spending tx > | index}. This allows a legacy transaction to be upgraded. OutPoints > which use a normalized txid don't need the SPV proof. > > The hard fork would be followed by a transitional period, in which both > txids could be used. Afterwards, legacy transactions have to have the SPV > proof added. This means that old transactions with locktimes years in the > future can be upgraded for spending, without nodes needing to maintain two > indexes. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > One dashboard for servers and applications across Physical-Virtual-Cloud > Widest out-of-the-box monitoring support with 50+ applications > Performance metrics, stats and reports that give you Actionable Insights > Deep dive visibility with transaction tracing using APM Insight. > http://ad.doubleclick.net/ddm/clk/290420510;117567292;y > _______________________________________________ > Bitcoin-development mailing list > Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development > > -- -- Gavin Andresen