public inbox for bitcoindev@googlegroups.com
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Gavin Andresen <gavinandresen@gmail•com>
To: Alex Morcos <morcos@gmail•com>
Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-development@lists•sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Reworking the policy estimation code (fee estimates)
Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2014 09:59:11 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CABsx9T35NdEkFmdVDX19gOO1p0h1M_ZDK1iXxTFNLHE9dtC3hQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPWm=eXxs=AfFhaT2EeGFsR+2r96WcaOeWL_Z59-6LixH+=4AQ@mail.gmail.com>

[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1020 bytes --]

I think Alex's approach is better; I don't think we can know how much
better until we have a functioning fee market.

We don't have a functioning fee market now, because fees are hard-coded. So
we get "pay the hard-coded fee and you'll get confirmed in one or two or
three blocks, depending on which miners mine the next three blocks and what
time of day it is."

git HEAD code says you need a fee of 10,0000 satoshis/kb to be pretty sure
you'll get confirmed in the next block. That looks about right with Alex's
real-world data (if we take "90% chance" as 'pretty sure you'll get
confirmed'):

Fee rate 100000 Avg blocks to confirm 1.09 NumBlocks:% confirmed 1: 0.901
2: 1.0   3: 1.0

My only concern with Alex's code is that it takes much longer to get
'primed' -- Alex, if I started with no data about fees, how long would it
take to be able to get enough data for a reasonable estimate of "what is
the least I can pay and still be 90% sure I get confirmed in 20 blocks" ?
Hours? Days? Weeks?

-- 
--
Gavin Andresen

[-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 1577 bytes --]

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-10-28 13:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-10-27 19:33 Alex Morcos
2014-10-28  9:55 ` Mike Hearn
2014-10-28 12:12   ` Alex Morcos
2014-10-28 13:59 ` Gavin Andresen [this message]
2014-10-28 14:30   ` Alex Morcos
2014-10-28 14:55     ` Alex Morcos
2014-10-28 14:58     ` Gavin Andresen
2014-10-28 15:39       ` Alex Morcos
2014-10-29 20:08 ` Peter Todd

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=CABsx9T35NdEkFmdVDX19gOO1p0h1M_ZDK1iXxTFNLHE9dtC3hQ@mail.gmail.com \
    --to=gavinandresen@gmail$(echo .)com \
    --cc=bitcoin-development@lists$(echo .)sourceforge.net \
    --cc=morcos@gmail$(echo .)com \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox