The proposed fix is to add a new rule on how
fees are handled.  Some amount of every fee should be considered as burned
and can never be spent.  I will propose 50% of the fee here, but there may
be better numbers that can be discovered prior to putting this into place.
If we'd like miners to continue to collect the same fees after this change,
we can suggest the default fee per transaction to be doubled

I would propose another practical rule rather than burning 50% of the fee. For example, you can

credit 50% of the transaction fee to the next block. Thus, the attacker cannot perform

the attack with 0-fee any more, yet you don't have to double the price of the TX fee for the fix.

Thanks,

Loi Luu.

On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 4:07 AM, Raystonn . <raystonn@hotmail.com> wrote:

When implemented, the block size limit was put in place to prevent the
potential for a massive block to be used as an attack to benefit the miner
of that block.  The theory goes that such a massive block would enrich its
miner by delaying other miners who are now busy downloading and validating
that huge block.  The original miner of that large-block would be free to
continue hashing the next block, giving it an advantage.

Unfortunately, this block size limit opened a different attack.  Prior to
the limit, any attempt to spam the network by anyone other than someone
mining their own transactions would have been economically unfeasible.  As
every transaction would have a fee, there would have been a real cost for
every minute of spam.  The end result would have been a transfer of wealth
from spammer to Bitcoin miners, which would have harmed the spammers and
encouraged further mining of Bitcoin, a very antifragile outcome.

But now we have the block size limit.  Things are very different with this
feature in place.  The beginning of a spam attack on the Bitcoin network
will incur transaction fees, just like before.  But if spam continues at a
rate exceeding the block size limit long enough for transactions to be
dropped from mempools, the vast majority of spam transaction fees will never
have to be paid.  In fact, as real users gain in desperation and pay higher
fees to get their transactions through in a timely manner, the spammers will
adjust their fees to minimize the cost of the attack and maximize
effectiveness.  Using this method, they keep their fees at a point that
causes most of the spam transactions to be dropped without confirmation
(free spam), while forcing a floor for transaction fees.  Thus, while spam
could be used by attackers to disable the network entirely, by paying
high-enough fees to actually fill the blocks with spam, it can also be used
by a single entity to force a transaction fee floor.  Real users will be
forced to pay a transaction fee higher than the majority of the spam to get
their transactions confirmed.  So this is an effective means for a minority
of miners to force higher fees through spam attacks, even in the face of
benevolent miners who would not support a higher fee floor by policy.
Miners would simply have no way to fix this, as they can only put in the
transactions that will fit under the block size limit.

In the face of such a spam attack, Bitcoin's credibility and usability would
be severely undermined.  The block size limit enables this attack, and I now
argue for its removal.  But we can't just remove it and ignore the problem
that it was intended to address.  We need a new fix for the large-block
problem described in the first paragraph that does not suffer from the
dropped-transaction spam-attack problem that is enabled by the block size
limit today.  My proposal is likely to be controversial, and I'm very much
open to hearing other better proposals.

Large blocks created by a miner as a means to spam other miners out of
competition is a problem because miners do not pay fees for their own
transactions when they mine them.  They collect the fees they pay.  This
breaks the economic barrier keeping people from spamming the network, as the
spamming is essentially free.  The proposed fix is to add a new rule on how
fees are handled.  Some amount of every fee should be considered as burned
and can never be spent.  I will propose 50% of the fee here, but there may
be better numbers that can be discovered prior to putting this into place.
If we'd like miners to continue to collect the same fees after this change,
we can suggest the default fee per transaction to be doubled.  Half of every
fee would be burned and disappear forever, effectively distributing the
value of those bitcoins across the entire money supply.  The other half
would be collected by the miner of the block as is done today.  This
solution would mean large blocks would cost a significant number of bitcoin
to create, even when all of the transactions are created by the miner of
that block.  For this to work, we'd need to ensure a minimum fee is paid for
most of the transactions in every block, and the new transaction fee rule is
in place.  Then the block size limit can be removed.

Raystonn


------------------------------------------------------------------------------
_______________________________________________
Bitcoin-development mailing list
Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

_______________________________________________
Bitcoin-development mailing list
Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development