Subject: Re: [bitcoindev] Re: Adding New BIP Editors

From: Steve Lee <[email-masked]>
Date: Sat, 20 Apr 2024 15:03:03 -0700

nsvrn posted a days ago. Here's the tweet
https://x.com/kanzure/status/1766888650069967053

Ava, I'm just requesting people acknowledge legitimate concerns raised and
be transparent. Do you disagree?

On Sat, Apr 20, 2024 at 2:37 PM Ava Chow <[email-masked]> wrote:

> On 04/20/2024 05:11 PM, Steve Lee wrote:
> >
> >     I am not aware of that, and it hasn't come up when I've talked to him
> >     about being a BIPs editor.
> >
> >
> > You should read this thread then before making a decision.
>
> Thank you for your snarky reply.
>
> I have, in fact, read every email in this thread. But there's 80+ emails
> in this thread and it's spread over 2 months, so it's possible I've
> missed something. With that in mind, I've just spent the last 10 minutes
> searching through the archive and cannot find any mention of Kanzure or
> anyone else saying that he would only be a BIP editor for payment. If
> you think I'm mistaken, I ask that you please provide a link to this
> evidence.
>
> >     Personally, I've spoken to all 5 privately and they've all confirmed
> to
> >     me that they are willing to be BIPs editors. Jonatack[1] and Murch[2]
> >     have also replied to this thread about this.
> >
> >
> > Ok good to know. Would've been nice to share this here so everyone was
> > aware.
>
> You should read this thread before making such assumptions.
>
> I informed the list[1] 4 days ago that I reached out privately to and
> got responses from Kanzure and Ruben. While I did the same with Jonatack
> and Murch, I did not feel the need to mention that because, if you've
> read this thread, they had already publicly confirmed their willingness.
>
> Ava
>
> [1]:
>
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>
> >
> >
> >
> >     Ava
> >
> >     [1]:
> >
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> >
> >     [2]:
> >
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> >
> >
> >      >
> >      > On Sat, Apr 20, 2024 at 12:30 PM 'Ava Chow' via Bitcoin
> Development
> >      > Mailing List <[email-masked]
> >     <mailto:[email-masked]>
> >      > <mailto:[email-masked]
> >     <mailto:[email-masked]>>> wrote:
> >      >
> >      >     Since we're now past the deadline of April 19th, I'd like to
> >     inform
> >      >     everyone of what will happen on Monday.
> >      >
> >      >     There has not been any actual objections to the nominees nor
> >     have there
> >      >     been any suggestions on choosing a subset of them since my
> >     last email.
> >      >     As such, there is rough consensus on adding Kanzure, Murch,
> >     Jonatack,
> >      >     Ruben, and Roasbeef as BIP editors, and they will be added on
> >     Monday
> >      >     April 22nd.
> >      >
> >      >     Ava
> >      >
> >      >     On 04/16/2024 01:08 PM, 'Ava Chow' via Bitcoin Development
> >     Mailing List
> >      >     wrote:
> >      >      > While I don't disagree that 5 or 6 people seems like a lot
> >     to add at
> >      >      > once, it's not clear to me how we should decide which
> >     subset of the
> >      >      > nominees should be added. As it is now, I have only seen
> >     an actual
> >      >      > objection to Kanzure and Ruben from /dev/fd0, and no
> explicit
> >      >     objections
> >      >      > to anyone else. It seems like the vast majority of people
> >     don't share
> >      >      > their concerns either as both Kanzure and Ruben continue
> to be
> >      >     endorsed
> >      >      > by many others.
> >      >      >
> >      >      > Looking at the endorsements each candidate has received,
> >     the current
> >      >      > counts are:
> >      >      > * Kanzure - 17 for, 1 against
> >      >      > * Murch - 13 for
> >      >      > * Jonatack - 13 for
> >      >      > * Ruben - 12 for, 1 against
> >      >      > * Roasbeef - 9 for
> >      >      > * Michael Folkson - none
> >      >      >
> >      >      > However, I don't want this process to become a popularity
> >     contest and
> >      >      > require some kind of formal voting. Rather I'd prefer that
> >     this
> >      >     process
> >      >      > be something more like how Bitcoin Core maintainers are
> >     added - by
> >      >      > achieving rough consensus. Without any explicit objections
> >     to any of
> >      >      > these candidates, I'm inclined to move forward with adding
> >     the 5 who
> >      >      > have received endorsements. Having to pick "winners" from
> >     this list
> >      >      > seems like a quick way to stir up drama that I don't think
> >     anyone
> >      >     really
> >      >      > wants to deal with.
> >      >      >
> >      >      > I do want to note that neither Kanzure, Ruben, nor
> >     Roasbeef have
> >      >     posted
> >      >      > on this list that they are willing to be BIP editors. I
> have
> >      >     reached out
> >      >      > to all 3 of them privately, and received responses from
> >     Kanzure and
> >      >      > Ruben that indicate that they probably are willing, but
> public
> >      >      > confirmation from them on this list would also be nice. I
> >     have not
> >      >      > received a response from Roasbeef.
> >      >      >
> >      >      > Ava
> >      >      >
> >      >      > On 04/11/2024 10:22 AM, Sergi Delgado Segura wrote:
> >      >      >>   > I would prefer having more (9+?) than less folks on
> this
> >      >     task, so
> >      >      >> personal preferences are easily ignored and overwritten
> >     by the group
> >      >      >> majority.
> >      >      >>
> >      >      >> I disagree with that, the more doesn't really the better
> >     here.
> >      >     Having
> >      >      >> too many editors may result in a tragedy of the commons,
> in
> >      >     which people
> >      >      >> just commit to the job because many others do, and they
> >     do not
> >      >     end up
> >      >      >> doing as much because they expect others to do the it.
> >     This does not
> >      >      >> only make the process look bad but may burnout the ones
> >     that end up
> >      >      >> doing the job, given their time commitment ends up being
> >     too far
> >      >     from
> >      >      >> their expectations.
> >      >      >>
> >      >      >> I think being more moderate with the amount of people is
> >     better, and
> >      >      >> gives us leeway in case the workload ends up being
> >     excessive and
> >      >     we need
> >      >      >> to add more people (plus discourage people from joining
> and
> >      >     slacking off).
> >      >      >>
> >      >      >> I think 3 more people should be a good number to start
> from.
> >      >      >> I'd personally vouch for Murch, Kanzure, and Ruben based
> on
> >      >     their track
> >      >      >> record in the space
> >      >      >>
> >      >      >> On Tue, Apr 2, 2024 at 4:30 PM nvk <[email-masked]
> >     <mailto:[email-masked]>
> >      >     <mailto:[email-masked] <mailto:[email-masked]>>
> >      >      >> <mailto:[email-masked] <mailto:[email-masked]>
> >     <mailto:[email-masked] <mailto:[email-masked]>>>> wrote:
> >      >      >>
> >      >      >> +1 for
> >      >      >> Kanzure
> >      >      >> RubenSomsen
> >      >      >> Seccour
> >      >      >> Jon Atack
> >      >      >> Roasbeef
> >      >      >>
> >      >      >> I would prefer having more (9+?) than less folks on this
> >     task, so
> >      >      >> personal preferences are easily ignored and overwritten
> >     by the group
> >      >      >> majority.
> >      >      >>
> >      >      >> BIPs were intended as a means to collect ideas, not
> >     enforce ideas.
> >      >      >>
> >      >      >> I'd like to return to that.
> >      >      >>
> >      >      >> - NVK (temp gmail account)
> >      >      >>
> >      >      >>      On Monday, April 1, 2024 at 5:16:54 PM UTC-4 David A.
> >      >     Harding wrote:
> >      >      >>
> >      >      >>          On 2024-03-28 10:04, Matt Corallo wrote:
> >      >      >>           > Please provide justification rather than
> simply
> >      >     saying "I
> >      >      >>          like Bob!".
> >      >      >>
> >      >      >>          Using only comments from the mailing list, the
> >      >     following appears
> >      >      >>          to be
> >      >      >>          the candidate list along with the current
> support.
> >      >     Asterisks denote
> >      >      >>          candidates who indicated their willingness to
> accept
> >      >     the role.
> >      >      >>
> >      >      >>          - Bryan "Kanzure" Bishop, recommended by Ava
> >     Chow[1], Chris
> >      >      >>          Stewart[3],
> >      >      >>          Michael Folkson[6], Peter Todd[9], Matt
> Corallo[10],
> >      >     Brandon
> >      >      >>          Black[11],
> >      >      >>          Antoine Riard[12], Murch[13], Antoine
> >     Poinsot[15], John
> >      >      >>          Carvalho[16]
> >      >      >>
> >      >      >>          - Ruben Somsen, recommended by Ava Chow[1], Chris
> >      >     Stewart[3],
> >      >      >>          Michael
> >      >      >>          Folkson[6], Antoine Riard[12], Murch[13], Antoine
> >      >     Poinsot[15], John
> >      >      >>          Carvalho[16]
> >      >      >>
> >      >      >>          - Jon Atack*, recommended by Luke Dashjr[2],
> Chris
> >      >     Stewart[3],
> >      >      >>          /dev/fd0[5][7],
> >      >      >>          Brandon Black[11], Antoine Riard[12], Ava
> >     Chow[14], John
> >      >      >>          Carvalho[16]
> >      >      >>
> >      >      >>          - Olaoluwa "Roasbeef" Osuntokun, recommended by
> >     Chris
> >      >      >>          Stewart[3], John
> >      >      >>          C. Vernaleo[4], /dev/fd0[5][7], Keagan
> >     McClelland[8],
> >      >     Antoine
> >      >      >>          Riard[12], Ava Chow[14]
> >      >      >>
> >      >      >>          - Mark "Murch" Erhardt*, recommended by Michael
> >      >     Folkson[6], Keagan
> >      >      >>          McClelland[8], Matt Corallo[10], Brandon
> >     Black[11], Antoine
> >      >      >>          Riard[12],
> >      >      >>          Ava Chow[14]
> >      >      >>
> >      >      >>          - Michael Folkson*
> >      >      >>
> >      >      >>          Note: Luke Dashjr proposed[17] Seccour and Greg
> >     Tonoski for
> >      >      >>          "non-dev
> >      >      >>          triaging", Tonoski proposed himself[18] for "BIP
> >      >     editor", and
> >      >      >>          Antoine
> >      >      >>          Riard[12] proposed Seccour for "decentralized
> PM".
> >      >      >>
> >      >      >>          I searched the BIPs repo by commenter to see if
> >     any of
> >      >     the above
> >      >      >>          candidates had been especially active there,
> >     which is
> >      >     listed
> >      >      >>          below as:
> >      >      >>          total PRs they commented on (number still
> >     open/number
> >      >     closed).
> >      >      >>
> >      >      >>          - 21 (1/20) commenter:kanzure
> >      >      >>          - 3 (2/1) commenter:rubensomsen
> >      >      >>          - 15 (0/15) commenter:jonatack
> >      >      >>          - 18 (2/16) commenter:roasbeef
> >      >      >>          - 10 (6/4) commenter:Murchandamus
> >      >      >>          - 57 (6/51) commenter:michaelfolkson
> >      >      >>
> >      >      >>          I'll also note that Osuntokun is the only member
> >     of the
> >      >     set to
> >      >      >>          have a
> >      >      >>          merged BIP that they co-authored, although I
> believe
> >      >     there are
> >      >      >>          far-along
> >      >      >>          draft BIPs for both Murch (terminology) and
> >     Somsen (Silent
> >      >      >>          Payments). I
> >      >      >>          don't think this should be a requirement, but I
> >     do think it
> >      >      >>          demonstrates
> >      >      >>          familiarity with the process.
> >      >      >>
> >      >      >>          Speaking only for myself, I think all of the
> >     candidates
> >      >     above with
> >      >      >>          multiple recommendations from other community
> >      >     participants are
> >      >      >>          fully
> >      >      >>          qualified for the role, so I'll only provide a
> >     detailed
> >      >      >>          justification
> >      >      >>          for the person who would be my first pick: Murch
> >     is not
> >      >     only a
> >      >      >>          longstanding and broadly liked Bitcoin
> >     contributor, but
> >      >     (as Corallo
> >      >      >>          mentioned) he has worked on standardizing
> >     terminology
> >      >     through a
> >      >      >>          draft
> >      >      >>          BIP. In addition, he provided an extremely
> detailed
> >      >     review of
> >      >      >>          all 300
> >      >      >>          pages of a draft of Mastering Bitcoin (3rd
> >     edition) and has
> >      >      >>          reviewed
> >      >      >>          drafts of over 200 weekly Optech newsletters, in
> >     both cases
> >      >      >>          significantly improving the accuracy and
> >      >     comprehensibility of the
> >      >      >>          documentation. To me, that seems very similar to
> the
> >      >     work we'd
> >      >      >>          ask him
> >      >      >>          to perform as a BIPs editor and it's something
> that
> >      >     he's already
> >      >      >>          doing,
> >      >      >>          so I think there's an excellent fit of person to
> >     role.
> >      >      >>
> >      >      >>          -Dave
> >      >      >>
> >      >      >>          [1]
> >      >      >>
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