I'm not sure I understand the need for hard forks. We can get through this crisis by mining pool collusion to prevent forking blocks until there is widespread adoption of patched clients. Proposal: 1) Patch the pre-0.8 branches to support an increased lock count, whatever number is required to make sure that this problem never shows up again at the current block size (I defer to Luke-Jr and gmaxwell's numbers on this). 2) Patch all branches to not *generate* blocks which trigger the lock count limit. A larger block would still be accepted as valid, however, if it is on the longest chain. 3) Simultaneously, provide an additional non-standard patch to mining pool operators (>>50% network hash) *rejecting* blocks that trigger the lock count limit. This keeps miners in collusion with each other to stay on a 'compatibility fork'. 4) At some point in the future once we've crossed an acceptable adoption threshold, the miners remove the above patch in a coordinated way. Does that not get us past this crisis without a hard-fork? Mark (Aside: I'm for BOTH raising the block-size limit and off-chain transactions, but like it or not there are political sides to that debate and we should keep politics out of crisis management.) On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 5:56 AM, Luke-Jr wrote: > Here's a simple proposal to start discussion from... > > BEFORE block 262144: > - Never make a block that, combined with the previous 4 blocks, results in > over 4500 transaction modifications. > - Reject any block that includes more than 4500 transaction modifications > on > its own (slight soft-fork) > - (these rules should make older clients safe under most circumstances) > > FROM block 262144 to block 393216 (hard fork #1): > - Never make, and reject any block that includes more than 24391 > transaction > modifications on its own (this *should* be equivalent to 1 MB) > - (this rules can make older client backports safe unless a reorg is more > than > 6 blocks deep) > > FROM block 393216 onward (hard fork #2): > - Never make, and reject any block that includes more than 48781 > transaction > modifications on its own (this *should* be equivalent to 2 MB) > - Accept blocks up to 2 MB in data size > - Discontinue support for clients prior to 0.8.1 > > I intentionally set the block numbers conservatively to try to account for > the > yet-unseen ASIC upgrade. > > Thoughts? > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. > Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics > Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: > http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_mar > _______________________________________________ > Bitcoin-development mailing list > Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development >