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From: Mark Friedenbach <mark@monetize•io>
To: Mike Hearn <mike@plan99•net>
Cc: bitcoin-development@lists•sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Dedicated server for bitcoin.org, your thoughts?
Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2013 13:46:18 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CACh7GpEGyPsOtgNpkVqizuugygpeXAn6829CF-7eDZ1yuCKvDg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CANEZrP3+AowZZS1=hAkx0KODiT-vbcRKyZaHOE2CWaJk3y5-Dw@mail.gmail.com>

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I too would be against the foundation taking control of hosting or the
domain. I have no reason at this time not to trust them, by checks and
balances are a good thing.
On Dec 8, 2013 12:29 PM, "Mike Hearn" <mike@plan99•net> wrote:

> Issues that would need to be resolved:
>
> 1) Who pays for it? Most obvious answer: Foundation. However there's
> currently a fairly clear line between the foundation website and the
> bitcoin.org website. I personally am fine with the bitcoin foundation
> funding the website, it's a lot closer to the bitcoin community than
> github. But some people might care. So next step would be to contact the
> Foundation board and see if they're willing to fund it.
>
> 2) Anti-DoS? I assume github handles this at the moment, though I doubt
> there's anything to be gained from DoSing the informational website
>
> 3) Where does the server go? Ideally, a hosting provider that accepts
> Bitcoin of course!
>
> 4) Who admins it?
>
> 5) Who controls DNS for it?
>
> Right now I think Sirius still owns DNS for bitcoin.org which is
> nonsense. He needs to pass it on to someone who is actually still involved
> with the project. Again, the most obvious neutral candidate would be the
> Foundation.
>
> So I think it's a good idea but there's a fair amount of work here. The
> primary upside I see is that it opens the potential for adding
> interactive/server-side code in future if we decide that would be useful.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 8:25 PM, Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell@gmail•com>wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Dec 8, 2013 at 11:16 AM, Drak <drak@zikula•org> wrote:
>> > BGP redirection is a reality and can be exploited without much
>>
>> You're managing to argue against SSL. Because it actually provides
>> basically protection against an attacker who can actively intercept
>> traffic to the server. Against that threat model SSL is clearly— based
>> on your comments— providing a false sense of security.
>>
>> We _do_ have protection that protect against that— the pgp signature,
>> but they are far from a solution since people do not check that.
>>
>> (I'm not suggesting we shouldn't have it, I'm suggesting you stop
>> arguing SSL provides protection it doesn't before you manage to change
>> my mind!)
>>
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-12-08 22:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-12-08  1:17 Saïvann Carignan
2013-12-08  3:38 ` Odinn Cyberguerrilla
2013-12-08  9:03   ` Saïvann Carignan
2013-12-08 12:37     ` Luke-Jr
2013-12-08 19:16       ` Drak
2013-12-08 19:25         ` Gregory Maxwell
2013-12-08 20:28           ` Mike Hearn
2013-12-08 20:40             ` Gregory Maxwell
2013-12-08 20:51               ` Drak
2013-12-08 21:01                 ` Luke-Jr
2013-12-08 21:11                   ` Drak
2013-12-08 23:51                     ` theymos
2013-12-09  0:06                       ` Taylor Gerring
2013-12-09  6:29                       ` Jeremy Spilman
2013-12-09 10:54                       ` Roy Badami
2013-12-10  9:18                       ` Odinn Cyberguerrilla
2013-12-08 21:09                 ` Gregory Maxwell
2013-12-08 21:16             ` Saïvann Carignan
2013-12-08 21:58               ` Roy Badami
2013-12-08 23:03                 ` Mike Hearn
2013-12-09  5:32                   ` Jeff Garzik
2013-12-08 22:44               ` Gavin Andresen
2013-12-08 23:48                 ` Saïvann Carignan
2013-12-08 23:18               ` Luke-Jr
2013-12-08 23:29               ` Patrick
2013-12-08 21:46             ` Mark Friedenbach [this message]
2013-12-08 20:40           ` Drak
2013-12-08 20:50             ` Gregory Maxwell
2013-12-08 21:07               ` Drak
2013-12-08 21:14                 ` Gregory Maxwell
2013-12-08 22:27                   ` Robert McKay
2013-12-12 20:51           ` Adam Back
2013-12-31 13:39             ` Drak
2013-12-31 13:48               ` Gregory Maxwell
2013-12-31 13:59                 ` Mike Hearn
2013-12-31 14:18                   ` Gregory Maxwell
2013-12-31 14:23                     ` Mike Hearn
2013-12-31 21:25                       ` Jeremy Spilman
2013-12-31 21:33                         ` Matt Corallo
2014-01-01 10:02                           ` Jeremy Spilman
2014-01-01 11:37                             ` Wladimir
2014-01-01 15:10                         ` Mike Hearn
2014-01-01 22:15                       ` Mike Hearn
2014-01-02 19:49                   ` Jorge Timón
2013-12-31 14:05                 ` Benjamin Cordes
2014-01-03  5:45                 ` Troy Benjegerdes
2014-01-03  9:59                   ` Drak
2014-01-03 11:22                     ` Tier Nolan
2014-01-03 13:09                       ` Adam Back
2014-01-03 17:38                     ` Troy Benjegerdes
2014-01-03 18:21                       ` Jorge Timón
2014-01-04  1:43                         ` Troy Benjegerdes
2013-12-08 10:00   ` Drak
2013-12-08 12:39     ` Luke-Jr
2013-12-08 16:51     ` Gregory Maxwell
2013-12-08 16:08 ` Wladimir

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