The statistics that I have stated are based on trxs that rely on our tool. They are not overstated, this is a reflection of the 0conf market on BTC. They are trxs which our clients query via the API and which I clients pay subscription for. There is no point for clients to send us trxs they don’t want or need our response from. We are a B2b provider so we are not sure how and who the end users and applications are. Coinify definitely doesn’t send us all their traffic, as I would think some of our other clients. Here is some external confirmation a bit old though but still- https://blog.coinpayments.net/news-features/gap600 You can also see our video of Coinspaid using our service on our site - all our Marcom is a bit old. We service primarily payment processors and liquidity providers and not end merchants so I can’t say how and to who end clients implement it. If AML/KYC was enough to prevent double spends all exchanges would offer 0conf. I don’t know the split with our clients as it’s non of our business but definitely a significant amount of end users are not Kyced for the trxs. Best would be to try and talk to some of our major clients - ie Coinpayments, Coinspaid and Coinify. On Sat, 3 Dec 2022 at 14:12 Peter Todd wrote: > On Sat, Dec 03, 2022 at 01:01:16PM +0200, Daniel Lipshitz wrote: > > Shapeshift used to be clients in fact one of our first when we started in > > 2016. > > > > They no longer use our service but from time to time use us for fee > > recommendations. So we actually should remove their logo as a current > > client. > > Yes you should. When did ShapeShift stop using your service? Did they > explain > why? > > > If you wish to test it out try find a merchant using Coinpayments or > > Coinspaid. > > > > Also some of our non custodial liquidity providers offer service no > > custodial wallets. I am not sure which. > > I see that you also advertise that Gap600 is "Trusted by" Coindirect and > Coinify, both AML/KYC crypto exchanges. Obviously, with full AML/KYC > double-spends are not much of a concern. And it's not even clear that > either accepts zeroconf anyway, as I'll explain later. > > On this list you claimed that: > > > 1. As of end of Nov 2022 - GAP600 has processed i.e responded to circa > > 15M transactions > > 2. These transactions have a cumulative value of 2.3B USD value. > > 3. We currently are seeing circa 1.5M transactions queired per month. > > What's the value and number of transactions that *actually* rely on your > unconfirmed transaction tools? The only category that would apply for is > goods > provided immediately and irrovocably, without AML/KYC. Because it sounds > like > these figures may be significantly overstated. > > > Re: CoinsPaid, what you say here makes it also sound like it relies on > AML/KYC: > > > CoinsPaid applies a special software tool across its solutions to conduct > > stringent KYC procedures and a risk-based approach to CDD that verify > user > > identities to mitigate fraud, money laundering and other activities > linked to > > criminality and terrorism. > https://www.gap600.com/uncategorized/coinspaid/ > > Re: Coindirect, the documentation I can find appears to say that > confirmations > are required before you can use coins deposited into Coindirect: > > > Digital currency transactions must be confirmed on the relevant network > block > > before they are considered valid. Only once confirmed, will you be able > to > > use the coins deposited in your Coindirect wallet. > > https://help.coindirect.com/hc/en-us/articles/115002441974-How-quickly-can-I-use-coins-deposited-into-my-Coindirect-wallet- > > This is repeated here as well: > https://help.coindirect.com/hc/en-us/articles/4409120006546--Deposits- > > Re: Coinify, the API docs don't give any indication of risk scoring or any > other Gap600 integration: > > https://merchant.coinify.com/docs/api/#payment-object > > -- > https://petertodd.org 'peter'[:-1]@petertodd.org > -- ________________________________ Daniel Lipshitz GAP600 www.Gap600.com