From: Brent Shambaugh <brent.shambaugh@gmail•com>
To: Mike Hearn <mike@plan99•net>
Cc: Bitcoin Development <bitcoin-development@lists•sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Why are we bleeding nodes?
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 12:56:07 -0500 [thread overview]
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Okay awesome. It seems like I set up a Litecoin node without knowing it
(because it was like this:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=128122.0) I was able to bootstrap
it (https://litecoin.info/).
On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 12:40 PM, Mike Hearn <mike@plan99•net> wrote:
> It uses ~no electricity, it's not like mining.
>
> The primary resources it needs are disk space and bandwidth, after an
> intensive initial day or two of building the database.
>
> Actually, I wonder if we should start shipping (auditable) pre-baked
> databases calculated up to the last checkpoint so people can download them
> and boot up their node right away. Recalculating the entire thing from
> scratch every time isn't sustainable in the long run anyway.
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 7:35 PM, Brent Shambaugh <brent.shambaugh@gmail•com
> > wrote:
>
>> How difficult would it be to set up a node? Using lots of electricity at
>> home (if required) could be an issue, but I do have a Webfaction account.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 12:16 PM, Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell@gmail•com>wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Mark Friedenbach <mark@monetize•io>
>>> wrote:
>>> > On 04/07/2014 09:57 AM, Gregory Maxwell wrote:
>>> >> That is an implementation issue-- mostly one that arises as an indirect
>>> >> consequence of not having headers first and the parallel fetch, not a
>>> >> requirements issue.
>>> >
>>> > Oh, absolutely. But the question "why are people not running full
>>> > nodes?" has to do with the current implementation, not abstract
>>> > capabilities of a future version of the bitcoind code base.
>>>
>>> The distinction is very important because it's a matter of things we
>>> can and should fix vs things that cannot be fixed except by changing
>>> goals/incentives! Opposite approaches to handling them.
>>>
>>> When I read "resource requirements of a full node are moving beyond" I
>>> didn't extract from that that "there are implementation issues that
>>> need to be improved to make it work better for low resource users" due
>>> to the word "requirements".
>>>
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Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2014-04-07 11:34 Mike Hearn
2014-04-07 12:17 ` Ricardo Filipe
2014-04-07 13:43 ` Andreas Schildbach
2014-04-07 14:05 ` Mike Hearn
2014-04-07 14:15 ` Eric Martindale
2014-04-07 14:23 ` Mike Hearn
2014-04-07 19:46 ` Troy Benjegerdes
2014-04-08 3:13 ` kjj
2014-04-08 7:50 ` Mike Hearn
2014-04-09 10:38 ` Wendell
2014-04-09 11:15 ` Wladimir
2014-04-07 14:45 ` Tom Harding
2014-04-07 12:19 ` Jameson Lopp
2014-04-07 12:26 ` Pieter Wuille
2014-04-07 12:34 ` Mike Hearn
2014-04-07 12:34 ` Jameson Lopp
2014-05-20 18:38 ` Isidor Zeuner
2014-04-07 13:50 ` Gregory Maxwell
2014-04-07 13:53 ` Gregory Maxwell
2014-04-07 13:58 ` Jameson Lopp
2014-04-07 14:04 ` Gregory Maxwell
2014-04-08 11:28 ` Jesus Cea
2014-04-07 15:45 ` Justus Ranvier
2014-04-07 15:53 ` Gregory Maxwell
2014-04-07 16:02 ` Jameson Lopp
2014-04-07 16:27 ` Mark Friedenbach
2014-04-07 16:57 ` Gregory Maxwell
2014-04-07 17:01 ` Mark Friedenbach
2014-04-07 17:16 ` Gregory Maxwell
2014-04-07 17:35 ` Brent Shambaugh
2014-04-07 17:40 ` Mike Hearn
2014-04-07 17:44 ` Gregory Maxwell
2014-04-07 17:45 ` Tamas Blummer
2014-04-07 17:50 ` Justus Ranvier
2014-04-07 18:30 ` Arne Brutschy
2014-04-07 17:56 ` Brent Shambaugh [this message]
2014-04-07 17:46 ` Justus Ranvier
2014-04-07 17:39 ` Chris Williams
2014-04-07 18:23 ` Mike Hearn
2014-04-07 18:35 ` Tamas Blummer
2014-04-07 18:49 ` Gregory Maxwell
2014-04-07 19:00 ` Tamas Blummer
2014-04-07 18:48 ` Mark Friedenbach
2014-04-07 19:02 ` Gregory Maxwell
2014-04-07 19:05 ` Tamas Blummer
2014-04-07 19:03 ` Gregory Maxwell
2014-04-07 19:13 ` Tier Nolan
2014-04-07 19:20 ` Tamas Blummer
2014-04-07 19:13 ` Mark Friedenbach
2014-04-07 19:36 ` Tamas Blummer
2014-04-07 21:46 ` Ricardo Filipe
2014-04-07 19:30 ` Paul Lyon
2014-04-07 19:50 ` Tamas Blummer
2014-04-07 21:48 ` Tier Nolan
2014-04-07 21:56 ` Gregory Maxwell
2014-04-08 3:44 ` Jeff Garzik
2014-04-08 7:24 ` Jean-Paul Kogelman
2014-04-08 7:59 ` Tamas Blummer
2014-04-08 17:18 ` Andrew LeCody
2014-04-07 17:07 ` Drak
2014-05-20 8:15 ` bitcoingrant
2014-05-20 8:42 ` Mike Hearn
2014-05-20 14:37 ` Eugen Leitl
2014-05-20 14:52 ` Gmail
2014-05-20 18:46 ` Andy Alness
2014-05-20 19:17 ` Jeff Garzik
2014-05-20 20:09 ` Andy Alness
2014-05-20 20:22 ` Jeff Garzik
2014-04-07 21:55 Paul Lyon
2014-04-07 22:14 ` Tier Nolan
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