* [Bitcoin-development] off-topic: bitcoin-forum...
@ 2012-02-19 16:38 Michael Gronager
2012-02-19 16:42 ` Harald Schilly
2012-02-19 21:32 ` grarpamp
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From: Michael Gronager @ 2012-02-19 16:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Bitcoin Dev
I am trying to post on the bitcoin forums (bitcointalk.org), but I am only able to reply and post on some of the regional forums?!?!? On the bitcoin dev and alternative client forums I have no post / reply button...
I don't consider myself an IT illiterate, and I have even tried to create a new user to see if that would help, but no luck....
Can any of you please share with me the secret on how to post there ???
In the expectation of a embarrassingly simple answer...
Michael
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* Re: [Bitcoin-development] off-topic: bitcoin-forum...
2012-02-19 16:38 [Bitcoin-development] off-topic: bitcoin-forum Michael Gronager
@ 2012-02-19 16:42 ` Harald Schilly
2012-02-19 16:45 ` Michael Grønager
2012-02-19 21:32 ` grarpamp
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From: Harald Schilly @ 2012-02-19 16:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Michael Gronager; +Cc: Bitcoin Dev
On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 17:38, Michael Gronager <gronager@ceptacle•com> wrote:
> In the expectation of a embarrassingly simple answer...
you probably need to be whitelisted, but i'm not sure.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=15911.0
h
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* Re: [Bitcoin-development] off-topic: bitcoin-forum...
2012-02-19 16:42 ` Harald Schilly
@ 2012-02-19 16:45 ` Michael Grønager
2012-02-19 16:46 ` Harald Schilly
2012-02-19 16:51 ` Wladimir
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From: Michael Grønager @ 2012-02-19 16:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Harald Schilly; +Cc: Bitcoin Dev
Thanks!
"required 5 posts and 4 hours"
Well, that is not so easy if you cannot post ;) I will apply for whitelisting - strange policy though...
/M
On 19/02/2012, at 17:42, Harald Schilly wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 17:38, Michael Gronager <gronager@ceptacle•com> wrote:
>> In the expectation of a embarrassingly simple answer...
>
> you probably need to be whitelisted, but i'm not sure.
> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=15911.0
>
> h
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* Re: [Bitcoin-development] off-topic: bitcoin-forum...
2012-02-19 16:45 ` Michael Grønager
@ 2012-02-19 16:46 ` Harald Schilly
2012-02-19 16:51 ` Wladimir
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From: Harald Schilly @ 2012-02-19 16:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Michael Grønager; +Cc: Bitcoin Dev
On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 17:45, Michael Grønager <gronager@ceptacle•com> wrote:
> strange policy though...
well, spammers are everywhere :)
h
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* Re: [Bitcoin-development] off-topic: bitcoin-forum...
2012-02-19 16:45 ` Michael Grønager
2012-02-19 16:46 ` Harald Schilly
@ 2012-02-19 16:51 ` Wladimir
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From: Wladimir @ 2012-02-19 16:51 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Michael Grønager; +Cc: Bitcoin Dev
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On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 5:45 PM, Michael Grønager <gronager@ceptacle•com>wrote:
> Thanks!
>
> "required 5 posts and 4 hours"
>
> Well, that is not so easy if you cannot post ;) I will apply for
> whitelisting - strange policy though...
>
It was instated in times that the forums were much more busy. There were a
lot of new people that trolled the forum with questions immediately, which
were answered throughout the forum already. This policy forces people to
hang around the newbie forums a bit before being able to post to the "full"
forum. I'm not sure it's really needed anymore -- anyway, it used to be
much more strict and you'll have no problems getting whitelisted.
Wladimir
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* Re: [Bitcoin-development] off-topic: bitcoin-forum...
2012-02-19 16:38 [Bitcoin-development] off-topic: bitcoin-forum Michael Gronager
2012-02-19 16:42 ` Harald Schilly
@ 2012-02-19 21:32 ` grarpamp
2012-02-19 22:57 ` Daniel F
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From: grarpamp @ 2012-02-19 21:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Bitcoin Dev
> I am trying to post on the bitcoin forums (bitcointalk.org)
I wish there were a bitcoin-user mailing list??? But the one on
sourceforge is dead. Forums are too full of avatars, smilies,
sigblocks and dead mass to be of much use. Not to mention
when they vanish, any content dies with it instead of living
on in various archives.
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* Re: [Bitcoin-development] off-topic: bitcoin-forum...
2012-02-19 21:32 ` grarpamp
@ 2012-02-19 22:57 ` Daniel F
2012-02-20 0:13 ` grarpamp
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From: Daniel F @ 2012-02-19 22:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: bitcoin-development
on 02/19/2012 04:32 PM grarpamp said the following:
>> I am trying to post on the bitcoin forums (bitcointalk.org)
> I wish there were a bitcoin-user mailing list??? But the one on
> sourceforge is dead. Forums are too full of avatars, smilies,
> sigblocks and dead mass to be of much use. Not to mention
> when they vanish, any content dies with it instead of living
> on in various archives.
Some time ago i started a googlegroup mailing list, bitcoin-discussion.
It's been pretty low-volume... but it's something. :)
http://groups.google.com/group/bitcoin-discussion
or we could try to revive the bitcoin-list ml on sf.
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* Re: [Bitcoin-development] off-topic: bitcoin-forum...
2012-02-19 22:57 ` Daniel F
@ 2012-02-20 0:13 ` grarpamp
2012-02-20 2:32 ` Daniel F
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From: grarpamp @ 2012-02-20 0:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: bitcoin-development
> Some time ago i started a googlegroup mailing list, bitcoin-discussion.
> It's been pretty low-volume... but it's something. :)
> http://groups.google.com/group/bitcoin-discussion
Unfortunately it appears to be just as dead as the one
on sourceforge.
> or we could try to revive the bitcoin-list ml on sf.
Well there's a couple things I see...
1) Yes, IMO, a real mailing list for users needs to exist.
Among the prior reasons... lists tend to house a more
technical crowd than forums which are magnets for
initiates.
2) There was originally one client. Now there are many,
all adherant to the same bitcoin spec. So while:
bitcoin-development@lists•sourceforge.net
represents the dev community for the original client,
it may not, or won't be, for any other client.
And as:
bitcoin-list@lists•sourceforge.net
was for, and is administratively tied to, the original client...
it may not be the place, or a welcome one, to hold talk of all
the adherant clients.
3) The sourceforge list browsing interface is ridiculously
lame and overweight, and it doesn't appear to be setting
a '^Reply-to: ' header which is bad. Googlegroups would
be an ok site I suppose. And a pure MailMan interface would
be even better and more customarily accepted.
So for the user list, I'd suggest:
1) Search a bit to make sure there's not already a busy list
out there somewhere. Check the list aggregator sites
like markmail, gmane, etc too.
2) Charter it as bitcoin protocol, client agnostic.
3) Find an impartial administrative and robust home for the list
with browsable, searchable and hopefully downloadable archives.
4) Make the announcement to other known client lists/forums.
5) Close any relevant old lists.
6) Promote via similar announcement from time to time.
http://groups.google.com/group/bitcoin-discussion/about
Description: A place for discussion related to bitcoin.
Is this sufficient charter to go with? Is the creator/maintainer
known impartial? What happens to ongoing list operations when
said people vanish? It is presumed googlegroups itself is robust.
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* Re: [Bitcoin-development] off-topic: bitcoin-forum...
2012-02-20 0:13 ` grarpamp
@ 2012-02-20 2:32 ` Daniel F
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From: Daniel F @ 2012-02-20 2:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: bitcoin-development
on 02/19/2012 07:13 PM grarpamp said the following:
>> Some time ago i started a googlegroup mailing list, bitcoin-discussion.
>> It's been pretty low-volume... but it's something. :)
>> http://groups.google.com/group/bitcoin-discussion
>
> Unfortunately it appears to be just as dead as the one
> on sourceforge.
That's exactly what i said above, in a more euphemistic fashion :D
> Well there's a couple things I see...
>
> 1) Yes, IMO, a real mailing list for users needs to exist.
> Among the prior reasons... lists tend to house a more
> technical crowd than forums which are magnets for
> initiates.
indeed.
> 2) There was originally one client. Now there are many,
> all adherant to the same bitcoin spec. So while:
> bitcoin-development@lists•sourceforge.net
> represents the dev community for the original client,
> it may not, or won't be, for any other client.
> And as:
> bitcoin-list@lists•sourceforge.net
> was for, and is administratively tied to, the original client...
> it may not be the place, or a welcome one, to hold talk of all
> the adherant clients.
i'm sure that with the list being unused, we could change the charter
and do whatever with it, and the people who matter probably won't object.
> 3) The sourceforge list browsing interface is ridiculously
> lame and overweight, and it doesn't appear to be setting
> a '^Reply-to: ' header which is bad. Googlegroups would
> be an ok site I suppose. And a pure MailMan interface would
> be even better and more customarily accepted.
Indeed, good points on all counts.
> So for the user list, I'd suggest:
> 1) Search a bit to make sure there's not already a busy list
> out there somewhere. Check the list aggregator sites
> like markmail, gmane, etc too.
> 2) Charter it as bitcoin protocol, client agnostic.
> 3) Find an impartial administrative and robust home for the list
> with browsable, searchable and hopefully downloadable archives.
> 4) Make the announcement to other known client lists/forums.
> 5) Close any relevant old lists.
> 6) Promote via similar announcement from time to time.
good points. re 1), i'm pretty sure that -dev is the most active
bitcoin-related public mailing list. things may have changed in the past
half-year, but it seems unlikely.
> http://groups.google.com/group/bitcoin-discussion/about
> Description: A place for discussion related to bitcoin.
>
> Is this sufficient charter to go with? Is the creator/maintainer
> known impartial? What happens to ongoing list operations when
> said people vanish? It is presumed googlegroups itself is robust.
charter can be changed if needed. creator/maintainer, that being me, is
generally known to be a pretty decent guy :). i'm not attached to this
particular list though, but whatever happens, i'd hope that there will
be more people willing to share administrative duties. not sure if
googlegroups is the best interface, if we can find some good free host
with mailman, downloadable archives, the works, that may be preferable.
i started that group on gg simply because it was free and easily
available and easy to set up.
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