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From: Btc Drak <btcdrak@gmail•com>
To: Sergio Demian Lerner <sergio.d.lerner@gmail•com>
Cc: bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] A Segwit2x BIP
Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2017 13:28:11 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADJgMzuCcJhoEbaGUv8QgaaL82+UiV6Q9Tbbti++J=Jg5B=sgg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAKzdR-qCmuj02yobAj9YDYq7Ed309z2VUaMtbL_i9vF3zkp5mw@mail.gmail.com>

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I am utterly appalled by this proposal both technically, ethically, and by
the process which it has adopted. Hard forks require consensus from the
entire ecosystem in order to prevent a fork, funds loss, confusion and harm
to the robust guarantees of the Bitcoin system has thus far displayed.

I know this is a draft, but you are seeking reviews of a proposal that has
just a few weeks remaining before deployment (where "technical review" is
pointless because the is not actually open
<https://pastebin.com/kktB1kaw> unless
you are an approved member
<https://github.com/btc1/bitcoin/commit/1719c872b6624c37b0f2d94e7a4a2656fac4804a#diff-6a3371457528722a734f3c51d9238c13>),
making it totally unworkable and irresponsible. For example, exactly how
are other implementations supposed to adopt the BIP in such a short
timeframe? For all the talk of how important "alternative implementations"
are, how does this rash and rushed action promote an ecosystem of multiple
implementors? By encouraging fast upgrades, you are actually centralizing
the ecosystem even further.

The linked coded doesn't uniquely identify itself on the network by
user-agent, something all distinct implementations have done to date.

The draft BIP text looks like an afterthought and doesn't actually specify
the proposal in enough detail to implement from the text. By contrast for
example, BIP141 has a level of detail which allowed others to implement
segwit without looking at any reference code (which consequently results to
more confidence and testing of the specification all round). The Bitcoin
system has a market cap of over $40bn supported by a robust and reliable
network and your proposal is an offence to all Bitcoin has achieved because
due to it's the strong foundations.

I cannot not support this proposal in the current form and timeline, nor do
I support the coercion that has been used behind closed doors to try and
gain more support (not limited to, but including approaching company
investors to twist arms and veiled threats of blacklisting companies from
further funding/collaboration).

I think the best you can hope for this hard fork proposal is for it to be
quietly ignored.



On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 10:25 PM, Sergio Demian Lerner via bitcoin-dev <
bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Here is a BIP that matches the reference code that the Segwit2x group has
> built and published a week ago.
>
> This BIP and code satisfies the requests of a large part of the Bitcoin
> community for a moderate increase in the Bitcoin non-witness block space
> coupled with the activation of Segwit.
>
> You can find the BIP draft in the following link:
>
> https://github.com/SergioDemianLerner/BIPs/blob/
> master/BIP-draft-sergiolerner-segwit2x.mediawiki
>
> Reference source was kindly provided by the Segwit2x group.
>
> Best regards,
>  Sergio.
>
> _______________________________________________
> bitcoin-dev mailing list
> bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org
> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev
>
>

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-07-08 13:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-07-07 22:25 Sergio Demian Lerner
2017-07-07 22:44 ` Matt Corallo
2017-07-07 23:25   ` Gregory Maxwell
2017-07-07 23:22 ` Gregory Maxwell
2017-07-13  3:10   ` Sergio Demian Lerner
2017-07-13  3:19     ` Sergio Demian Lerner
2017-07-07 23:27 ` Luke Dashjr
2017-07-07 23:38   ` Gregory Maxwell
2017-07-08  6:30 ` Erik Aronesty
2017-07-08 13:28 ` Btc Drak [this message]
     [not found]   ` <A7FFF8F7-9806-44F1-B68F-F83C44893365@ob1.io>
2017-07-10 11:50     ` Sergio Demian Lerner
2017-07-10 18:38       ` Jorge Timón
2017-07-12  8:15         ` Tom Zander
2017-07-12 12:38           ` Jonas Schnelli
2017-07-12 17:38           ` Jorge Timón
2017-07-13 19:19             ` Sergio Demian Lerner
2017-07-13 19:48               ` Andrew Chow
2017-07-13 21:18                 ` Charlie 'Charles' Shrem
2017-07-14 13:50               ` Erik Aronesty
2017-07-12  1:06       ` Luke Dashjr
2017-07-12 15:41         ` Aymeric Vitte

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