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From: Btc Drak <btcdrak@gmail•com>
To: Eric Voskuil <eric@voskuil•org>,
	 Bitcoin Protocol Discussion
	<bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] [BIP Proposal] Buried Deployments
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2016 17:45:45 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADJgMzunxU2-7Z_ZPafNY4BPRu0x9oeh6v2dg0nUYqxJbXeGYA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CEDAD65E-512A-43CA-9BD6-56F7D9E6897C@voskuil.org>

I think this is already covered in the BIP text:-

"As of November 2016, the most recent of these changes (BIP 65,
enforced since December 2015) has nearly 50,000 blocks built on top of
it. The occurrence of such a reorg that would cause the activating
block to be disconnected would raise fundamental concerns about the
security assumptions of Bitcoin, a far bigger issue than any
non-backwards compatible change.

So while this proposal could theoretically result in a consensus
split, it is extremely unlikely, and in particular any such
circumstances would be sufficiently damaging to the Bitcoin network to
dwarf any concerns about the effects of this proposed change."


On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 6:47 PM, Eric Voskuil via bitcoin-dev
<bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> NACK
>
> Horrible precedent (hardcoding rule changes based on the assumption that
> large forks indicate a catastrophic failure), extremely poor process
> (already shipped, now the discussion), and not even a material performance
> optimization (the checks are avoidable once activated until a sufficiently
> deep reorg deactivates them).
>
> e
>
> On Nov 14, 2016, at 10:17 AM, Suhas Daftuar via bitcoin-dev
> <bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Recently Bitcoin Core merged a simplification to the consensus rules
> surrounding deployment of BIPs 34, 66, and 65
> (https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8391), and though the change is a
> minor one, I thought it was worth documenting the rationale in a BIP for
> posterity.
>
> Here's the abstract:
>
> Prior soft forks (BIP 34, BIP 65, and BIP 66) were activated via miner
> signaling in block version numbers. Now that the chain has long since passed
> the blocks at which those consensus rules have triggered, we can (as a
> simplification and optimization) replace the trigger mechanism by caching
> the block heights at which those consensus rules became enforced.
>
> The full draft can be found here:
>
> https://github.com/sdaftuar/bips/blob/buried-deployments/bip-buried-deployments.mediawiki
>
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-11-15 17:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-14 18:17 Suhas Daftuar
2016-11-14 18:47 ` Eric Voskuil
2016-11-15 14:42   ` Suhas Daftuar
2016-11-15 17:45   ` Btc Drak [this message]
2016-11-15 22:42     ` Eric Voskuil
2016-11-16 13:29       ` Jameson Lopp
2016-11-16 13:58         ` Eric Voskuil
2016-11-16 14:18           ` Tier Nolan
2016-11-16 14:32             ` Alex Morcos
2016-11-16 21:01               ` Peter Todd
2016-11-16 22:21                 ` Eric Voskuil
2016-11-17  3:06                 ` Luke Dashjr
2016-11-16 14:18           ` Thomas Kerin
2016-11-16 23:58             ` Jorge Timón
2016-11-17  0:00               ` Eric Voskuil
2016-11-17  1:24                 ` Alex Morcos
2016-11-17  1:41                   ` Eric Voskuil
2016-11-17  0:13             ` Eric Voskuil
2016-11-16 23:48           ` Jorge Timón
2016-11-17  1:50           ` Pieter Wuille
2016-11-17  2:16             ` Eric Voskuil
2016-11-17  2:47               ` Pieter Wuille
2016-11-17 10:10                 ` Eric Voskuil
2016-11-16 14:38   ` Tom Zander

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