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From: Jameson Lopp <jameson.lopp@gmail•com>
To: Peter Todd <pete@petertodd•org>
Cc: Nagaev Boris <bnagaev@gmail•com>, bitcoindev@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [bitcoindev] The Future of Bitcoin Testnet
Date: Mon, 1 Apr 2024 08:54:31 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADL_X_cmcXxHke089OD_45VRJy5aR+9uj-18bSjXBE7FKwR-Jw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ZgnVtJHn2ikLfwa9@petertodd.org>

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It sounds like folks think testnet is useful enough to continue maintaining.

I think it's a fair point that testnet should strive to be as similar to
mainnet as possible. If we fix the difficulty reset edge case then that
will arguably make testnet EVEN MORE like mainnet by removing the "block
storm" phenomenon.

Changing the supply schedule is an interesting proposal, though I'd counter
that fixing the difficulty reset will naturally make the supply schedule
more evenly distributed over time, plus we can hopefully move toward
resetting the network before long. I'd be slightly worried about changing
consensus rules on testnet that deviate significantly from mainnet because
I bet there are plenty of systems running that validate that rule or make
assumptions that it's the same as mainnet, and deploying such a change
could cause far more grief for the developer ecosystem.

On Sun, Mar 31, 2024 at 5:29 PM Peter Todd <pete@petertodd•org> wrote:

> On Sun, Mar 31, 2024 at 06:01:51PM -0300, Nagaev Boris wrote:
> > > If we fix the difficulty reset bug, we might as well also fix the coin
> supply
> > > issue: get rid of the halving for testnet and just make every block
> create new
> > > coins.
> >
> > If such a change is made, then such a network won't be suitable to
> > test halvings and software behaviour related to halvings.
>
> I don't think that's very important. That's a very small part of what
> testnet
> is used for, and nothing stops people from using, say, regtest for that
> kind of
> testing. We already changed important consensus code around difficulty with
> testnet-specific behavior.
>
> --
> https://petertodd.org 'peter'[:-1]@petertodd.org
>

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  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-01 12:59 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-31 13:19 Jameson Lopp
2024-03-31 14:33 ` Luke Dashjr
2024-03-31 14:57   ` Jameson Lopp
2024-03-31 17:21     ` Eric Voskuil
2024-04-09 18:28   ` Garlo Nicon
2024-03-31 16:02 ` Peter Todd
2024-03-31 21:01   ` Nagaev Boris
2024-03-31 21:29     ` Peter Todd
2024-04-01 12:54       ` Jameson Lopp [this message]
2024-04-01 13:37         ` Pieter Wuille
2024-04-01 14:20           ` Andrew Poelstra
2024-04-01 22:01             ` 'Fabian' via Bitcoin Development Mailing List
2024-04-02 11:53               ` Jameson Lopp
2024-04-02 18:36                 ` Lukáš Kráľ
2024-04-02 19:46                   ` Jameson Lopp
2024-04-03  4:19           ` Anthony Towns
2024-04-03 18:18             ` emsit
2024-04-03 19:35               ` Andrew Poelstra
2024-04-30 18:46               ` Matthew Bagazinski
2024-05-01 15:30                 ` Garlo Nicon
2024-05-04 17:13                 ` Peter Todd
2024-04-10  6:57       ` Garlo Nicon
2024-04-22  4:33         ` Ali Sherief
2024-04-01 13:25 ` Andrew Poelstra
2024-04-01 13:32   ` 'Fabian' via Bitcoin Development Mailing List
2024-04-01 14:28 ` Warren Togami
2024-04-01 19:22 ` [bitcoindev] " emsit
2024-04-04  8:14 ` Calvin Kim
2024-04-04 12:47   ` Jameson Lopp
2024-04-05  4:30     ` Calvin Kim
2024-04-06 23:04       ` David A. Harding
2024-04-09 16:48         ` Peter Todd
2024-04-16 17:30           ` [bitcoindev] " 'Sjors Provoost' via Bitcoin Development Mailing List
2024-04-07  7:20   ` [bitcoindev] " Christian Decker
2024-04-07  8:09     ` K Calvin
2024-04-08 19:11 ` Garlo Nicon
2024-04-09  4:29   ` coinableS
2024-04-28 13:45 ` [bitcoindev] " Matt Corallo
2024-05-02  7:10   ` Ali Sherief
2024-05-04 17:08     ` Peter Todd

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