From: Jameson Lopp <jameson.lopp@gmail•com>
To: Matt Corallo <lf-lists@mattcorallo•com>
Cc: Andrew Poelstra <apoelstra@wpsoftware•net>,
Bitcoin Development Mailing List <bitcoindev@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: [bitcoindev] CTV + CSFS: a letter
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2025 07:08:07 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADL_X_fxwKLdst9tYQqabUsJgu47xhCbwpmyq97ZB-SLWQC9Xw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f8b37a59-0897-40df-a08e-7812c806a716@mattcorallo.com>
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> Unlike a generic "We Want Things" sign-on letter, individual messages
indicating desire to utilize features is way more compelling.
Then I submit my essay from 2 years ago (
https://blog.casa.io/why-bitcoin-needs-covenants/) and will quote myself:
"There are clearly a LOT of use cases that could potentially be unlocked
with the right kind of covenant implementation. Personally, having spent 8
years working on high security multi-signature wallets, I'm most interested
in vaults. I believe the value they offer is quite straightforward and is
applicable to every single self-custody bitcoin user, regardless of what
type of wallet they are running."
- Jameson
On Thu, Jun 12, 2025 at 6:54 PM Matt Corallo <lf-lists@mattcorallo•com>
wrote:
> To be fair to James, in my (luckily rather brief) experience with
> Bitcoin-consensus-letter-writing,
> its nearly impossible to forge a statement that everyone agrees to that is
> consistently interpreted.
>
> Matt
>
> On 6/12/25 3:51 PM, Andrew Poelstra wrote:
> > Le Thu, Jun 12, 2025 at 02:38:13PM -0400, James O'Beirne a écrit :
> >>
> >> As the person who coordinated the letter, I can say that this is not an
> >> accurate characterization of the signers' intent. Everyone who signed
> >> explicitly wants to see the imminent review, integration, and activation
> >> planning for CTV+CSFS specifically. The letter is intentionally concise
> to
> >> make sure there are no misunderstandings about that.
> >>
> >> I spoke to each person on the original list of signatories who either
> did
> >> (or didn't) sign and this was made very clear. Some people didn't sign
> as a
> >> result of what the letter says.
> >>
> >
> > The letter asks Core to "prioritize the review and integration" on an
> > accelerated timeline, and that this will "allow" for "activation
> planning".
> >
> > Early drafts of the letter did ask for actual integration and even
> > activation, but I did not sign any of those early drafts. It was not
> > until the language was weakened to be about priorities and planning (and
> > to be a "respectful ask" rather some sort of demand) that I signed on.
> >
> >
> > The letter is concise but unfortunately I think Matt is correct that it
> > offers a broad range of interpretations, even among the signers.
> >
> >
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2025-06-13 11:15 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-06-09 11:40 James O'Beirne
2025-06-09 12:51 ` Michael Folkson
2025-06-09 14:41 ` James O'Beirne
2025-06-09 15:56 ` Michael Folkson
2025-06-09 13:51 ` Matt Corallo
2025-06-09 14:43 ` James O'Beirne
2025-06-09 17:51 ` Matt Corallo
2025-06-09 19:27 ` /dev /fd0
2025-06-09 21:12 ` Matt Corallo
2025-06-09 18:55 ` 'Antoine Poinsot' via Bitcoin Development Mailing List
2025-06-10 2:02 ` Paul Sztorc
2025-06-09 23:02 ` Andrew Poelstra
2025-06-10 2:08 ` David A. Harding
2025-06-10 13:23 ` Andrew Poelstra
2025-06-10 17:17 ` Matt Corallo
2025-06-10 23:42 ` Antoine Riard
2025-06-12 3:34 ` James O'Beirne
2025-06-13 1:18 ` Antoine Riard
2025-06-10 23:42 ` Antoine Riard
2025-06-11 13:52 ` Peter Todd
2025-06-13 6:19 ` Anthony Towns
2025-06-13 14:50 ` Harsha Goli
2025-06-10 14:03 ` James O'Beirne
2025-06-10 16:56 ` Sjors Provoost
2025-06-10 17:15 ` 'Antoine Poinsot' via Bitcoin Development Mailing List
2025-06-10 19:04 ` Paul Sztorc
2025-06-11 18:09 ` Brandon Black
2025-06-10 2:28 ` Melvin Carvalho
2025-06-10 13:19 ` Greg Sanders
2025-06-11 14:12 ` James O'Beirne
[not found] ` <CAB3F3Dsf8=rbOyPf1yTQDzyQQX6FAoJWTg16VC8PVs4_uBkeTw@mail.gmail.com>
2025-06-11 16:50 ` James O'Beirne
2025-06-11 18:34 ` James O'Beirne
2025-06-11 20:30 ` Matt Corallo
2025-06-12 0:59 ` Harsha Goli
2025-06-12 18:04 ` Matt Corallo
2025-06-12 18:38 ` James O'Beirne
2025-06-12 18:43 ` Matt Corallo
2025-06-12 19:51 ` Andrew Poelstra
2025-06-12 22:44 ` Matt Corallo
2025-06-13 11:08 ` Jameson Lopp [this message]
2025-06-13 12:36 ` Matt Corallo
2025-06-13 13:07 ` 'Antoine Poinsot' via Bitcoin Development Mailing List
2025-06-13 15:41 ` Jameson Lopp
2025-06-13 5:50 ` Anthony Towns
2025-06-12 2:06 ` Greg Maxwell
2025-06-12 3:23 ` James O'Beirne
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