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From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@gmail•com>
To: jl2012 <jl2012@xbt•hk>
Cc: Bitcoin development mailing list <bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Block size: It's economics & user preparation & moral hazard
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 17:27:40 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADm_Wca9zTdTc2gvTxrWkFjfA49KhbU_=uNXh_mZ+QYXGZ6wWg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9a02d94fbc78afaa3e9668e0294eef64@xbt.hk>

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On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 1:36 PM, jl2012 <jl2012@xbt•hk> wrote:

> 4. In the miners round table on the second day, one of the devs mentioned
> that he didn't want to be seen as the decision maker of Bitcoin. On the
> other hand, Chinese miners repeatedly mentioned that they want several
> concrete proposals from devs which they could choose. I see no
> contradiction between these 2 viewpoints.
>

This was a very interesting dynamic, and seems fair (menu).



> 6. I believe we should avoid a radical "Economic Change Event" at least in
> the next halving cycle, as Bitcoin was designed to bootstrap the adoption
> by high mining reward in the beginning. For this reason, I support an early
> and conservative increase, such as BIP102 or 2-4-8. 2MB is accepted by most
> people and it's better than nothing for BIP101 proponents. By "early" I
> mean to be effective by May, at least 2 months before the halving.
>

That was precisely my logic for picking May 5 as the hard fork date.  Some
buffer before halving, enough for caution and iteration in the meantime.






>
> (c) My most optimistic guess is SW will be ready in 6 months, which will
> be very close to halving and potential tx volume burst. And it may not be
> done in 2016, as it does not only involve consensus code, but also change
> in the p2p protocol and wallet design
>

Not just wallet design -- you have to game through the standard steps of:
 update dev lib (bitcoin-core.js/bitcoinj) + release cycle, update app +
release cycle, for most actors in the ecosystem, on top of the Bitcoin Core
roll out.

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-12-16 22:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-16 14:53 Jeff Garzik
2015-12-16 18:34 ` Pieter Wuille
2015-12-16 21:08   ` Jeff Garzik
2015-12-16 21:11     ` Pieter Wuille
2015-12-17  2:06       ` Jameson Lopp
2015-12-17 16:58       ` Tier Nolan
2015-12-17 19:44         ` Peter Todd
2015-12-18  5:23           ` Jorge Timón
2015-12-18  9:44           ` Tier Nolan
2015-12-16 21:24     ` Jorge Timón
2015-12-16 21:36       ` Jeff Garzik
2015-12-18  5:11   ` Jeff Garzik
2015-12-18  7:56     ` Pieter Wuille
2015-12-18 10:13       ` sickpig
2015-12-18 15:48         ` Pieter Wuille
2015-12-19 19:04           ` Dave Scotese
     [not found]           ` <751DFAA9-9013-4C54-BC1E-5F7ECB7469CC@gmail.com>
2015-12-26 16:44             ` Pieter Wuille
2015-12-26 17:20               ` Jorge Timón
2015-12-26 22:55               ` Jonathan Toomim
2015-12-26 23:01                 ` Pieter Wuille
2015-12-26 23:07                   ` Jonathan Toomim
2015-12-26 23:16                     ` Pieter Wuille
2015-12-27  0:03                       ` Jonathan Toomim
2015-12-26 23:15                   ` Justus Ranvier
2015-12-27  0:13                     ` Bryan Bishop
2015-12-27  0:33                       ` Justus Ranvier
2015-12-18 13:56       ` Jeff Garzik
2015-12-23  6:26   ` Aaron Voisine
2015-12-16 18:36 ` jl2012
2015-12-16 22:27   ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2015-12-17  6:12     ` Dave Scotese

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