Re: [bitcoin-dev] Crossing the line? [Was: Re: Let's deploy BIP65 CHECKLOCKTIMEVERIFY!]

From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@gmail•com>
To: Tao Effect <contact@taoeffect•com>
Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Crossing the line? [Was: Re: Let's deploy BIP65 CHECKLOCKTIMEVERIFY!]
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2015 12:39:39 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADm_WcaKQLTtuOxcvby0VFnhY-qEfC4WChNF+TtEr2yLJr_w-g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CECF25CD-6DF0-412F-9FF4-5AE3249C0A39@taoeffect.com>

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To reduce the list noise level, drama level and promote inclusion, my own
personal preference (list admin hat: off, community member hat: on) is for
temporal bans based on temporal circumstances.  Default to
pro-forgiveness.  Also, focus on disruption of the list as a metric, rather
than focusing on a specific personality.

I do think we're at a bit of a point where we're going around in circles.

Given the current reddit hubbub, a bit of a cooling off period is IMO
advisable before taking any further action.

On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 12:08 AM, Tao Effect via bitcoin-dev <
bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org> wrote:

> Dear list,
>
> Mike has made a variety of false and damaging statements about Bitcoin, of
> which this is but one:
>
> On Sep 30, 2015, at 2:01 PM, Mike Hearn via bitcoin-dev <
> bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>
> I coined the term SPV so I know exactly what it means, and bitcoinj
> implements it, as does BreadWallet (the other big SPV implementation).
>
>
> On his website Vinumeris.com he writes:
>
> Vinumeris was founded in 2014 by Mike Hearn, one of the developers of the
> Bitcoin digital currency system.
>
>
> On plan99.net there are several embedded videos that refer to him a “core
> developer” of Bitcoin. And now it seems he is claiming to be Satoshi.
>
> It seems to me that Mike’s emails, false statements (like the one above
> about coining SPV), arguments, and his attempts to steal control of Bitcoin
> via the contentious Bitcoin XT fork, represent actions that have been
> harming and dividing this community for several years now.
>
> In many communities/tribes, there exists a line that, once crossed,
> results in the expulsion of a member from the community.
>
> So, two questions:
>
> 1. Does the Bitcoin-devs mailing list have such a line?
> 2. If so, does the community feel that Mike Hearn has crossed it? (I
> personally feel he has. Multiple times.)
>
> Thanks for your thoughts,
> Greg Slepak
>
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