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From: James Hilliard <james.hilliard1@gmail•com>
To: bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Blockchain verification flag (BIP draft)
Date: Sat, 5 Dec 2015 20:47:01 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADvTj4q_Ubrk6a15Q4uB3MT0PHGnvZt3yPMOWCdPhWf_WGH-tA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <871tb16diz.fsf@rustcorp.com.au>

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I think something that anyone who isn't validating should be aware of is
that cgminer(which powers the vast majority of the current mining network)
doesn't allow for a pool to revert to mining on the previous block due to
the way chain tracking is implemented.

https://github.com/ckolivas/cgminer/blob/master/cgminer.c#L4727

On Fri, Dec 4, 2015 at 4:43 PM, Rusty Russell via bitcoin-dev <
bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org> wrote:

> Gavin Andresen via bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org>
> writes:
> > Overall, good idea.
> >
> > Is there a write-up somewhere describing in detail the 'accidental
> selfish
> > mining' problem that this mitigates? I think a link in the BIP to a
> fuller
> > description of the problem and how validation-skipping makes it go away
> > would be helpful.
> >
> > RE: which bit to use:  the draft versionbits BIP and BIP101 use bit 30;
> to
> > avoid confusion, I think it would be better to use bit 0.
>
> Yes, BIP9 need to be adjusted (setting bit 30 means BIP9 counts it as a
> vote against all softforks).  BIP101 uses bits 0,1,2 AFAICT, so perhaps
> start from the other end and use bit 29?  We can bikeshed that later
> though...
>
> > I agree with Jannes Faber, behavior with respect to SPV clients should be
> > to only tell them about fully validated headers.
>
> A delicate balance.  If we penalize these blocks too much, it's
> disincentive to set the bit.  Fortunately it's easy for SPV clients to
> decide for themselves, I think?
>
> Cheers,
> Rusty.
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  reply	other threads:[~2015-12-06  2:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-04  8:26 Gregory Maxwell
2015-12-04 12:44 ` Jannes Faber
2015-12-04 16:46   ` Thomas Kerin
2015-12-04 17:34 ` Gavin Andresen
2015-12-04 22:43   ` Rusty Russell
2015-12-06  2:47     ` James Hilliard [this message]
2015-12-06  6:26       ` Gregory Maxwell
2015-12-06  5:13     ` Gregory Maxwell

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