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From: Tier Nolan <tier.nolan@gmail•com>
Cc: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion <bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] BIP30 and BIP34 interaction (was Re: [BIP Proposal] Buried Deployments)
Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2016 10:22:28 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAE-z3OXfJa3Lewtrafm25bdfPa=eiarOAXBNbgc3ccTi7Qoe6A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e0e6679f-aec6-a579-667d-b5b58ea2360b@voskuil.org>

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On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 12:43 AM, Eric Voskuil <eric@voskuil•org> wrote:

> > This means that all future transactions will have different txids...
> rules do guarantee it.
>
> No, it means that the chance is small, there is a difference.
>

I think we are mostly in agreement then?  It is just terminology.

In terms of discussing the BIP, barring a hash collision, it does make
duplicate txids impossible.

Given that a hash collision is so unlikely, the qualifier should be added
to those making claims that require hash collisions rather than those who
assume that they aren't possible.

You could have said "However nothing precludes different txs from having
the same hash, but it requires a hash collision".

Thinking about it, a re-org to before the enforcement height could allow
it.  The checkpoints protect against that though.


> As such this is not something that a node
> can just dismiss.


The security of many parts of the system is based on hash collisions not
being possible.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-11-17 10:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-17  0:06 Jorge Timón
2016-11-17  0:10 ` Eric Voskuil
2016-11-17  0:31   ` Tier Nolan
2016-11-17  0:43     ` Eric Voskuil
2016-11-17  0:53       ` Eric Voskuil
2016-11-17  8:44       ` Peter Todd
2016-11-17  9:58         ` Eric Voskuil
2016-11-17 10:22       ` Tier Nolan [this message]
2016-11-17 11:22         ` Eric Voskuil
2016-11-17 11:38           ` Alex Morcos
2016-11-17 12:22             ` Eric Voskuil
2016-11-17 15:40               ` Johnson Lau
2016-11-17 17:01                 ` Eric Voskuil
2016-11-17 17:22                   ` Johnson Lau
2016-11-17 17:49                     ` Eric Voskuil
2016-11-17 18:08                       ` Johnson Lau
2016-11-18  3:20                         ` Eric Voskuil
2016-11-18 14:43                           ` Johnson Lau
2016-11-18 16:47                             ` Eric Voskuil

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