Re: [bitcoin-dev] RFC - BIP: URI scheme for Blockchain exploration

From: Marco Pontello <marcopon@gmail•com>
To: "Jorge Timón" <jtimon@jtimon•cc>
Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] RFC - BIP: URI scheme for Blockchain exploration
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2015 13:31:46 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAE0pACKqrO0X+XBjkEASz+T8YK_VdRdxhWYo0mUkOkJjjuzctA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
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Right, now it should be ok. Thanks.

On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 12:29 PM, Jorge Timón <jtimon@jtimon•cc> wrote:

> I can always link to the BIP when I reopen that commit as independent
> instead of the other way around.
> Btw, the PR needs rebase (probably the conflict is in the README).
>
> On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 11:10 PM, Marco Pontello <marcopon@gmail•com>
> wrote:
> > OK, adding the relevant code fragment is probably the simplest and direct
> > option. Done.
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Jorge Timón <jtimon@jtimon•cc> wrote:
> >>
> >> Not a native english speaker myself, so I may have missed some things...
> >>
> >> Yes, sorry about the link. I guess you can point to #6230 . I can
> >> rebase it if needed but I would close it again because I don't want to
> >> have too many things from #6382 opened at the same time (is noisy and
> >> worse for review). My plan was to not open it independently at least
> >> until after #6907 (and actually after 0.12 assuming #6907 gets in by
> >> 0.12). But then I would maybe open a new one and reference the old one
> >> rather than reopening #6230 (which tends to be confusing).
> >> I'm not really sure what's the best answer here...but #6382 is
> >> certainly going to need rebase and the link will be broken again.
> >> Maybe one answer is to copy some text from #6230 or the commit and add
> >> it directly to the BIP instead of referencing to that commit (which
> >> will be, at least until #6907 is merged, a moving target).
> >>
> >> On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 1:59 AM, Marco Pontello <marcopon@gmail•com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > Thanks for the comments! Now I fixed the typos (hope to have got them
> >> > all,
> >> > English isn't my first language), clarified the chain part a bit, and
> >> > fixed
> >> > the link. There probably is a better way to reference that source code
> >> > part
> >> > with the genesis blocks hashs, in a way that doesn't need to be
> changed,
> >> > maybe...
> >> >
> >> > Now the main change would be to put in a proper BIP number! :)
> >> >
> >> > On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 12:42 PM, Jorge Timón <jtimon@jtimon•cc>
> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Thank you for incorporating the feedback, specifically thank you for
> >> >> using the genesis block hash as the unique chain ID.
> >> >>
> >> >> I wen't through the BIP draft and left a few of comments, but I
> really
> >> >> like its simplicity and focus. Good work!
> >> >>
> >> >> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 3:14 AM, Marco Pontello via bitcoin-dev
> >> >> <bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> >> >> > Hi!
> >> >> >
> >> >> > To anyone that followed the discussion (from some time ago) about
> the
> >> >> > proposed new URI for Blockchain references / exploration, I just
> >> >> > wanted
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > point out that I have collected the feedback provided, reworked the
> >> >> > text,
> >> >> > put the BIP on GitHub and created a pull request:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> https://github.com/MarcoPon/bips/blob/master/bip-MarcoPon-01.mediawiki
> >> >> > https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/pull/202
> >> >> >
> >> >> > The need for an URI for this come to mind again in the last days
> >> >> > looking
> >> >> > at
> >> >> > Eternity Wall, which IMHO provide a use case that we will see more
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > more
> >> >> > in the (near) future: http://eternitywall.it/
> >> >> > Using that service, when you want to check for the proof that a
> >> >> > specific
> >> >> > message was written in the Blockchain, it let you choose from 5
> >> >> > different
> >> >> > explorer.
> >> >> > Mycelium wallet recently added the option to select one of 15 block
> >> >> > explorers.
> >> >> > And there's the crypto_bot on reddit/r/bitcoin that detect
> reference
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > transaction an add a message with links to 7 different explorers.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I think that's clearly something that's needed.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Bye!
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 1:48 PM, Marco Pontello <
> marcopon@gmail•com>
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Hi!
> >> >> >> My first post here, hope I'm following the right conventions.
> >> >> >> I had this humble idea for a while, so I thought to go ahead and
> >> >> >> propose
> >> >> >> it.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> BIP: XX
> >> >> >> Title: URI scheme for Blockchain exploration
> >> >> >> Author: Marco Pontello
> >> >> >> Status: Draft
> >> >> >> Type: Standards Track
> >> >> >> Created: 29 August 2015
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Abstract
> >> >> >> ========
> >> >> >> This BIP propose a simple URI scheme for looking up blocks,
> >> >> >> transactions,
> >> >> >> addresses on a Blockchain explorer.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Motivation
> >> >> >> ==========
> >> >> >> The purpose of this URI scheme is to enable users to handle all
> the
> >> >> >> requests for details about blocks, transactions, etc. with their
> >> >> >> preferred
> >> >> >> tool (being that a web service or a local application).
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Currently a Bitcoin client usually point to an arbitrary
> blockchain
> >> >> >> explorer when the user look for the details of a transaction (es.
> >> >> >> Bitcoin
> >> >> >> Wallet use BitEasy, Mycelium or Electrum use Blockchain.info,
> etc.).
> >> >> >> Other times resorting to cut&paste is needed.
> >> >> >> The same happens with posts and messages that reference some
> >> >> >> particular
> >> >> >> txs or blocks, if they provide links at all.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Specification
> >> >> >> =============
> >> >> >> The URI follow this simple form:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> blockchain: <hash/string>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Examples:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> blockchain:00000000000000001003e880d500968d51157f210c632e08a652af3576600198
> >> >> >> blockchain:001949
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> blockchain:3b95a766d7a99b87188d6875c8484cb2b310b78459b7816d4dfc3f0f7e04281a
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Rationale
> >> >> >> =========
> >> >> >> I thought about using some more complex scheme, or adding
> qualifiers
> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> distinguish blocks from txs, but in the end I think that keeping
> it
> >> >> >> simple
> >> >> >> should be practical enough. Blockchain explorers can apply the
> same
> >> >> >> disambiguation rules they are already using to process the usual
> >> >> >> search
> >> >> >> box.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> From the point of view of a wallet developer (or other tool that
> >> >> >> need
> >> >> >> to
> >> >> >> show any kind of Blockchain references), using this scheme mean
> that
> >> >> >> he
> >> >> >> can simply make it a blockchain: link and be done with it, without
> >> >> >> having
> >> >> >> to worry about any specific Blockchain explorer or provide a means
> >> >> >> for
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> user to select one.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Blockchain explorers in turn will simply offer to handle the
> >> >> >> blockchain:
> >> >> >> URI, the first time the user visit their website, or
> launch/install
> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> application, or even set themselves if there isn't already one.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Users get the convenience of using always their preferred
> explorer,
> >> >> >> which
> >> >> >> can be especially handy on mobile devices, where juggling with
> >> >> >> cut&paste
> >> >> >> is far from ideal.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
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