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From: Ethan Heilman <eth3rs@gmail•com>
To: Peter Todd <pete@petertodd•org>
Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] A proposal to reintroduce the disabled script opcodes
Date: Mon, 22 May 2017 10:41:40 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAEM=y+XbHsCQ__u-oVqp8AjWoR29G45ZRDRDdFAMYJhqtRN0Pg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170522140919.GA17878@fedora-23-dvm>

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>It'd help your case if you gave us some examples of such scripts being
used.

I want OP_CAT so that I can securely and compactly verify many hashes and
hash preimages. This would shrink offchain Tumblebit transactions
significantly.

For instance if I want a transaction TxA which checks that a transaction
TxB releases preimages x1,x2,...,x10 such that
y1=H(x1), y2=H(x2),...,y10=H(x10). Currently I just put y1,...y10 and check
that the preimahes hash correctly. With OP_CAT I would only have to store
one hash in TxA, yhash

ytotal = H(OP_CAT(H(OP_CAT(y1, y2)),y3)...y10)

TxA could then just hash all the preimages supplied by TxB and confirm they
hash to TxA. This would reduce the size of TxA from approx 10*32B to
32+10*16B. I have a version which improves this further but it is more
complex.

Most of the math OP codes aren't particularly helpful due to their 32bit
nature and their strange overflow behavior.

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-05-22 14:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-19  6:07 Mark Boldyrev
2017-05-19 13:13 ` Hampus Sjöberg
2017-05-22 14:09 ` Peter Todd
2017-05-22 14:41   ` Ethan Heilman [this message]
2017-05-22 16:14     ` Peter Todd
2017-05-22 16:43       ` Ethan Heilman

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