Wouldn't this enable a passive adversary listening the mempool to associate unrelated TXO clusters to the same user? On Sat, Sep 19, 2020, 15:38 David A. Harding via bitcoin-dev < bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: > On Fri, Sep 18, 2020 at 05:51:39PM -0700, Jeremy via bitcoin-dev wrote: > > I'd like to share with you a draft proposal for a mechanism to replace > > CPFP and RBF for increasing fees on transactions in the mempool that > > should be more robust against attacks. > > Interesting idea! This is going to take a while to think about, but I > have one immediate question: > > > To prevent garbage sponsors, we also require that: > > > > 1. The Sponsor's feerate must be greater than the Sponsored's ancestor > fee rate > > > > We allow one Sponsor to replace another subject to normal replacement > > policies, they are treated as conflicts. > > Is this in the reference implementation? I don't see it and I'm > confused by this text. I think it could mean either: > > 1. Sponsor Tx A can be replaced by Sponsor Tx B if A and B have at least > one input in common (which is part of the "normal replacement policies") > > 2. A can be replaced by B even if they don't have any inputs in common > as long as they do have a Sponsor Vector in common (while otherwise > using the "normal replacement policies"). > > In the first case, I think Mallory can prevent Bob from > sponsor-fee-bumping (sponsor-bumping?) his transaction by submitting a > sponsor before he does; since Bob has no control over Mallory's inputs, > he can't replace Mallory's sponsor tx. > > In the second case, I think Mallory can use an existing pinning > technique to make it expensive for Bob to fee bump. The normal > replacement policies require a replacement to pay an absolute higher fee > than the original transaction, so Mallory can create a 100,000 vbyte > transaction with a single-vector sponsor at the end pointing to Bob's > transaction. This sponsor transaction pays the same feerate as Bob's > transaction---let's say 50 nBTC/vbyte, so 5 mBTC total fee. In order > for Bob to replace Mallory's sponsor transaction with his own sponsor > transaction, Bob needs to pay the incremental relay feerate (10 > nBTC/vbyte) more, so 6 mBTC total ($66 at $11k/BTC). > > Thanks, > > -Dave > _______________________________________________ > bitcoin-dev mailing list > bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev >