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Hi folks,

https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev
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new posts here will now be saved.

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*TODO*

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hi folks,</div><div><br></div><a href=3D"https://list=
s.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev">https://lists.linuxfoun=
dation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev</a><br><div>The move is now complet=
e.=C2=A0 The previous archive has been fully imported and new posts here wi=
ll now be saved.</div><div><br></div><div><b style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font=
-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;;font-size:medium">Greylisting Notice</b><=
span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;;font-s=
ize:medium">=C2=A0</span><br style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:&#39;Tim=
es New Roman&#39;;font-size:medium"><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-fa=
mily:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;;font-size:medium">Your first post to this li=
st may be delayed by 5+ minutes due to=C2=A0</span><a href=3D"https://en.wi=
kipedia.org/wiki/Greylisting" style=3D"font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39=
;;font-size:medium">Greylisting</a><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-fam=
ily:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;;font-size:medium">. Subsequent posts should g=
o through without delay. Contact Freenode #bitcoin-dev if you have any ques=
tions or concerns.</span><br></div><div><br></div><div><b>TODO</b></div><di=
v><ul><li>LF will be upgrading Mailman soon to better handle posts from DKI=
M enforced domains.</li><li>There will be a few more config tweaks like aut=
o-rejecting non-subscribed posts.=C2=A0 Nobody has time to moderate this li=
st, and mail silently disappearing into the moderation hold blackhole is wo=
rse than an instant reject message telling people to subscribe. =C2=A0 Unfo=
rtunately, it is too dangerous to auto-reject spam ... those messages need =
to go into a blackhole to prevent bounce abuse.</li></ul>Warren Togami=C2=
=A0<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div>

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Thanks for all your hard work setting this up, and to everyone else
involved.

Drak

On Sun, Jun 21, 2015 at 10:29 PM, Warren Togami Jr. <wtogami@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev
> The move is now complete.  The previous archive has been fully imported
> and new posts here will now be saved.
>
> *Greylisting Notice*
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> Greylisting <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greylisting>. Subsequent posts
> should go through without delay. Contact Freenode #bitcoin-dev if you have
> any questions or concerns.
>
> *TODO*
>
>    - LF will be upgrading Mailman soon to better handle posts from DKIM
>    enforced domains.
>    - There will be a few more config tweaks like auto-rejecting
>    non-subscribed posts.  Nobody has time to moderate this list, and mail
>    silently disappearing into the moderation hold blackhole is worse than an
>    instant reject message telling people to subscribe.   Unfortunately, it is
>    too dangerous to auto-reject spam ... those messages need to go into a
>    blackhole to prevent bounce abuse.
>
> Warren Togami
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks for all your hard work setting this up, and to ever=
yone else involved.<div><br></div><div>Drak</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_=
extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Jun 21, 2015 at 10:29 PM, War=
ren Togami Jr. <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:wtogami@gmail.com" t=
arget=3D"_blank">wtogami@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;pa=
dding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hi folks,</div><div><br></div><a href=
=3D"https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev" target=
=3D"_blank">https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev<=
/a><br><div>The move is now complete.=C2=A0 The previous archive has been f=
ully imported and new posts here will now be saved.</div><div><br></div><di=
v><b style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;;font-s=
ize:medium">Greylisting Notice</b><span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-fami=
ly:&#39;Times New Roman&#39;;font-size:medium">=C2=A0</span><br style=3D"co=
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oman&#39;;font-size:medium">. Subsequent posts should go through without de=
lay. Contact Freenode #bitcoin-dev if you have any questions or concerns.</=
span><br></div><div><br></div><div><b>TODO</b></div><div><ul><li>LF will be=
 upgrading Mailman soon to better handle posts from DKIM enforced domains.<=
/li><li>There will be a few more config tweaks like auto-rejecting non-subs=
cribed posts.=C2=A0 Nobody has time to moderate this list, and mail silentl=
y disappearing into the moderation hold blackhole is worse than an instant =
reject message telling people to subscribe. =C2=A0 Unfortunately, it is too=
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le to prevent bounce abuse.</li></ul><span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"=
#888888">Warren Togami=C2=A0<br></font></span></div><div><br></div><div><br=
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<br>_______________________________________________<br>
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ACK - all seams fine here.


Do we have all the archives imported? I run several full nodes and
mirrors for open source projects, if you think it's useful, I can
provide a mirror for the mail list archives.

On 6/22/2015 12:29 AM, Warren Togami Jr. wrote:
> Hi folks,
> 
> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev
> The move is now complete.  The previous archive has been fully imported
> and new posts here will now be saved.
> 
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> Your first post to this list may be delayed by 5+ minutes due
> to Greylisting <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greylisting>. Subsequent
> posts should go through without delay. Contact Freenode #bitcoin-dev if
> you have any questions or concerns.
> 
> *TODO*
> 
>   * LF will be upgrading Mailman soon to better handle posts from DKIM
>     enforced domains.
>   * There will be a few more config tweaks like auto-rejecting
>     non-subscribed posts.  Nobody has time to moderate this list, and
>     mail silently disappearing into the moderation hold blackhole is
>     worse than an instant reject message telling people to subscribe.  
>     Unfortunately, it is too dangerous to auto-reject spam ... those
>     messages need to go into a blackhole to prevent bounce abuse.
> 
> Warren Togami 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev
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> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev The
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Thanks for the work!

What about updating bitcoin.org (https://bitcoin.org/en/development)?
I guess people start looking there...

Same for this...
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=15527.0

Bip0001 needs also an update...
https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0001.mediawiki

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> Same for this...
> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=15527.0
> 
> Bip0001 needs also an update...
> https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0001.mediawiki

https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/pull/161
https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin.org/pull/908
https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/6319

The bitcoin.org one probably still needs some tweaking.

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Hello,

I'm not sure if anyone has submitted a request for gmane to monitor and=20
archive this new list, but I did. Maybe it's not best for many people to =

re-request that? For those who aren't aware, gmane has a nice HTTP/HTML=20
archive as well as a newsgroup proxy that is also very nice for reading=20
the archive. They'll also subscribe the list to mail-archive.com for you.=


I've also noticed that gmane=20
(http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.bitcoin.devel) does not have exactly=20
the same archive for the old bitcoin-development list=20
(http://sourceforge.net/p/bitcoin/mailman/bitcoin-development/). It's=20
missing a few months at the beginning. The new list archive does contain =

the same thing as the old list=20
(https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/).

gmane has an option to import old archives, so I'm seeing if they can do =

that with the https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/=20
list, since it is complete. In order to avoid confusion on what list is=20
the most complete, if they can, I may request them delete or rename=20
their old, incomplete archive at=20
http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.bitcoin.devel . It's possible they could =

even make this new list use that same name after deleting or renaming=20
that old archive.


There is also bitcoin-list=20
(http://sourceforge.net/p/bitcoin/mailman/bitcoin-list/). I think that=20
one may be discontinued? That list appears to be older and contains some =

of Satoshi's original e-mails. On gmane though=20
(http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.bitcoin.user), it is missing the first=20
few years of archives. Do we want to try and preserve this historical=20
correspondence on any way before sourceforce disappears?




Regarding message footers and the subject prefix of [bitcoin-dev], it=20
would be cool if mailman allowed people to change this on a per-user basi=
s.

Andy Schroder

On 06/21/2015 05:29 PM, Warren Togami Jr. wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev
> The move is now complete.  The previous archive has been fully=20
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>
> *Greylisting Notice*
> Your first post to this list may be delayed by 5+ minutes due to=20
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>
> *TODO*
>
>   * LF will be upgrading Mailman soon to better handle posts from DKIM
>     enforced domains.
>   * There will be a few more config tweaks like auto-rejecting
>     non-subscribed posts.  Nobody has time to moderate this list, and
>     mail silently disappearing into the moderation hold blackhole is
>     worse than an instant reject message telling people to subscribe.
>     Unfortunately, it is too dangerous to auto-reject spam ... those
>     messages need to go into a blackhole to prevent bounce abuse.
>
> Warren Togami
>
>
>
>
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    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">Hello,<br>
      <br>
      I'm not sure if anyone has submitted a request for gmane to
      monitor and archive this new list, but I did. Maybe it's not best
      for many people to re-request that? For those who aren't aware,
      gmane has a nice HTTP/HTML archive as well as a newsgroup proxy
      that is also very nice for reading the archive. They'll also
      subscribe the list to mail-archive.com for you.<br>
      <br>
      I've also noticed that gmane
      (<a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"http://dir.gmane.org/gm=
ane.comp.bitcoin.devel">http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.bitcoin.devel</a>=
) does not have
      exactly the same archive for the old bitcoin-development list
      (<a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"http://sourceforge.net/=
p/bitcoin/mailman/bitcoin-development/">http://sourceforge.net/p/bitcoin/=
mailman/bitcoin-development/</a>).
      It's missing a few months at the beginning. The new list archive
      does contain the same thing as the old list
      (<a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"https://lists.linuxfoun=
dation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/">https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipe=
rmail/bitcoin-dev/</a>).<br>
      <br>
      gmane has an option to import old archives, so I'm seeing if they
      can do that with the
      <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"https://lists.linuxfound=
ation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/">https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/piper=
mail/bitcoin-dev/</a> list,
      since it is complete. In order to avoid confusion on what list is
      the most complete, if they can, I may request them delete or
      rename their old, incomplete archive at
      <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"http://dir.gmane.org/gma=
ne.comp.bitcoin.devel">http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.bitcoin.devel</a> =
=2E It's possible they
      could even make this new list use that same name after deleting or
      renaming that old archive.<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      There is also bitcoin-list
      (<a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"http://sourceforge.net/=
p/bitcoin/mailman/bitcoin-list/">http://sourceforge.net/p/bitcoin/mailman=
/bitcoin-list/</a>). I think
      that one may be discontinued? That list appears to be older and
      contains some of Satoshi's original e-mails. On gmane though
      (<a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"http://dir.gmane.org/gm=
ane.comp.bitcoin.user">http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.bitcoin.user</a>),=
 it is missing the
      first few years of archives. Do we want to try and preserve this
      historical correspondence on any way before sourceforce
      disappears?<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      <br>
      <br>
      Regarding message footers and the subject prefix of [bitcoin-dev],
      it would be cool if mailman allowed people to change this on a
      per-user basis.<br>
      <br>
      <pre class=3D"moz-signature" cols=3D"72">Andy Schroder</pre>
      On 06/21/2015 05:29 PM, Warren Togami Jr. wrote:<br>
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cite=3D"mid:CAEz79Po7irWrCEfgoRqsLxgwY+R1=3DcZae5z7NrHJfxM9iBro5g@mail.gm=
ail.com"
      type=3D"cite">
      <div dir=3D"ltr">
        <div>Hi folks,</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <a moz-do-not-send=3D"true"
          href=3D"https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitc=
oin-dev">https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev</=
a><br>
        <div>The move is now complete.&nbsp; The previous archive has bee=
n
          fully imported and new posts here will now be saved.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div><b style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:'Times New
            Roman';font-size:medium">Greylisting Notice</b><span
            style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:'Times New
            Roman';font-size:medium">&nbsp;</span><br
            style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:'Times New
            Roman';font-size:medium">
          <span style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:'Times New
            Roman';font-size:medium">Your first post to this list may be
            delayed by 5+ minutes due to&nbsp;</span><a
            moz-do-not-send=3D"true"
            href=3D"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greylisting"
            style=3D"font-family:'Times New Roman';font-size:medium">Grey=
listing</a><span
            style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:'Times New
            Roman';font-size:medium">. Subsequent posts should go
            through without delay. Contact Freenode #bitcoin-dev if you
            have any questions or concerns.</span><br>
        </div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div><b>TODO</b></div>
        <div>
          <ul>
            <li>LF will be upgrading Mailman soon to better handle posts
              from DKIM enforced domains.</li>
            <li>There will be a few more config tweaks like
              auto-rejecting non-subscribed posts.&nbsp; Nobody has time =
to
              moderate this list, and mail silently disappearing into
              the moderation hold blackhole is worse than an instant
              reject message telling people to subscribe. &nbsp;
              Unfortunately, it is too dangerous to auto-reject spam ...
              those messages need to go into a blackhole to prevent
              bounce abuse.</li>
          </ul>
          Warren Togami&nbsp;<br>
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        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
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nuxfoundation.org">bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a>
<a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"https://lists.linuxfoundation.=
org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev">https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailm=
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