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From: "Hampus Sjöberg" <hampus.sjoberg@gmail•com>
To: Luke Dashjr <luke@dashjr•org>
Cc: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion <bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Dynamic MaxBlockSize - 3 Byte Solution
Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2019 18:10:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFMkqK8fuB0BSpVsSnzgBv1WkZx_8Wqi4BQ6dL95PeGExM1nHQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201911111647.06200.luke@dashjr.org>

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> It ISN'T low right now...

I agree, but I don't think it's a good idea to softfork it to lower than 4M
WU though, and I don't think we need to;
hopefully when exchanges start using Lightning or Liquid, avg blocksize
will go down.

> Extension blocks are not softforks, and are unreasonably convoluted for
no
real gain. When the time comes, the block size should be increased only
using
a hardfork.

It depends on how you define soft and hardforks, I suspect you don't see
extension blocks as a softforks because old nodes won't maintain a correct
UTXO set.
I think an extension block is a softfork because old nodes will still be
able to follow the mainchain.

I don't know if a blocksize increase hardfork will get consensus as the
idea has been ruined by all malicious hijack attempts we've seen over the
years.

Hampus

Den mån 11 nov. 2019 kl 17:47 skrev Luke Dashjr <luke@dashjr•org>:

> On Monday 11 November 2019 16:08:43 Hampus Sjöberg via bitcoin-dev wrote:
> > I am advocating to keep the blocksize low right now,
>
> It ISN'T low right now...
>
> > but I don't leave out
> > in increasing it in the future when we have a need for it, preferably via
> > an extension block (softfork).
>
> Extension blocks are not softforks, and are unreasonably convoluted for no
> real gain. When the time comes, the block size should be increased only
> using
> a hardfork.
>
> Luke
>

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  reply	other threads:[~2019-11-11 17:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 9+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-11-07  3:33 Trevor Groves
2019-11-08 14:36 ` Emil Engler
2019-11-08 15:19   ` Joachim Strömbergson
2019-11-08 17:04     ` Alberto Aldave
2019-11-11 16:08   ` Hampus Sjöberg
2019-11-11 16:47     ` Luke Dashjr
2019-11-11 17:10       ` Hampus Sjöberg [this message]
2019-11-11 19:56         ` Luke Dashjr
2019-11-11 13:52 ` ZmnSCPxj

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