Hi Antoine,

Thanks as always for your input. I'm glad we agree on so much!

In summary, it seems that the decisions that might still need attention/input from devs on this mailing list are:
1. Whether we should start with multiple-parent-1-child or 1-parent-1-child.
2. Whether it's ok to require that the child not have conflicts with mempool transactions.

Responding to your comments...

> IIUC, you have package A+B, during the dedup phase early in `AcceptMultipleTransactions` if you observe same-txid-different-wtixd A' and A' is higher feerate than A, you trim A and replace by A' ?

> I think this approach is safe, the one who appears unsafe to me is when A' has a _lower_ feerate, even if A' is already accepted by our mempool ? In that case iirc that would be a pinning.

Right, the fact that we essentially always choose the first-seen witness is an unfortunate limitation that exists already. Adding package mempool accept doesn't worsen this, but the procedure in the future is to replace the witness when it makes sense economically. We can also add logic to allow package feerate to pay for witness replacements as well. This is pretty far into the future, though.

> It sounds uneconomical for an attacker but I think it's not when you consider than you can "batch" attack against multiple honest counterparties. E.g, Mallory broadcast A' + B' + C' + D' where A' conflicts with Alice's honest package P1, B' conflicts with Bob's honest package P2, C' conflicts with Caroll's honest package P3. And D' is a high-fee child of A' + B' + C'.

> If D' is higher-fee than P1 or P2 or P3 but inferior to the sum of HTLCs confirmed by P1+P2+P3, I think it's lucrative for the attacker ?

I could be misunderstanding, but an attacker wouldn't be able to batch-attack like this. Alice's package only conflicts with A' + D', not A' + B' + C' + D'. She only needs to pay for evicting 2 transactions.

> Do we assume that broadcasted packages are "honest" by default and that the parent(s) always need the child to pass the fee checks, that way saving the processing of individual transactions which are expected to fail in 99% of cases or more ad hoc composition of packages at relay ?
> I think this point is quite dependent on the p2p packages format/logic we'll end up on and that we should feel free to revisit it later ?

I think it's the opposite; there's no way for us to assume that p2p packages will be "honest." I'd like to have two things before we expose on P2P: (1) ensure that the amount of resources potentially allocated for package validation isn't disproportionately higher than that of single transaction validation and (2) only use package validation when we're unsatisifed with the single validation result, e.g. we might get better fees.
Yes, let's revisit this later :)
 
 > Yes, if you receive A+B, and A is already in-mempoo, I agree you can discard its feerate as B should pay for all fees checked on its own. Where I'm unclear is when you have in-mempool A+B and receive A+B'. Should B' have a fee high enough to cover the bandwidth penalty replacement (`PaysForRBF`, 2nd check) of both A+B' or only B' ?
 
 B' only needs to pay for itself in this case.
 
> > Do we want the child to be able to replace mempool transactions as well?

> If we mean when you have replaceable A+B then A'+B' try to replace with a higher-feerate ? I think that's exactly the case we need for Lightning as A+B is coming from Alice and A'+B' is coming from Bob :/

Let me clarify this because I can see that my wording was ambiguous, and then please let me know if it fits Lightning's needs?

In my proposal, I wrote "If a package meets feerate requirements as a package, the parents in the transaction are allowed to replace-by-fee mempool transactions. The child cannot replace mempool transactions." What I meant was: the package can replace mempool transactions if any of the parents conflict with mempool transactions. The child cannot not conflict with any mempool transactions.
The Lightning use case this attempts to address is: Alice and Mallory are LN counterparties, and have packages A+B and A'+B', respectively. A and A' are their commitment transactions and conflict with each other; they have shared inputs and different txids.
B spends Alice's anchor output from A. B' spends Mallory's anchor output from A'. Thus, B and B' do not conflict with each other.
Alice can broadcast her package, A+B, to replace Mallory's package, A'+B', since B doesn't conflict with the mempool.

Would this be ok?

> The second option, a child of A', In the LN case I think the CPFP is attached on one's anchor output.

While it would be nice to have full RBF, malleability of the child won't block RBF here. If we're trying to replace A', we only require that A' signals replaceability, and don't mind if its child doesn't.

> > B has an ancestor score of 10sat/vb and D has an
> > ancestor score of ~2.9sat/vb. Since D's ancestor score is lower than B's,
> > it fails the proposed package RBF Rule #2, so this package would be
> > rejected. Does this meet your expectations?

> Well what sounds odd to me, in my example, we fail D even if it has a higher-fee than B. Like A+B absolute fees are 2000 sats and A+C+D absolute fees are 4500 sats ?

Yes, A+C+D pays 2500sat more in fees, but it is also 1000vB larger. A miner should prefer to utilize their block space more effectively.

> Is this compatible with a model where a miner prioritizes absolute fees over ancestor score, in the case that mempools aren't full-enough to fulfill a block ?

No, because we don't use that model.

Thanks,
Gloria

On Thu, Sep 23, 2021 at 5:29 AM Antoine Riard <antoine.riard@gmail.com> wrote:
> Correct, if B+C is too low feerate to be accepted, we will reject it. I
> prefer this because it is incentive compatible: A can be mined by itself,
> so there's no reason to prefer A+B+C instead of A.
> As another way of looking at this, consider the case where we do accept
> A+B+C and it sits at the "bottom" of our mempool. If our mempool reaches
> capacity, we evict the lowest descendant feerate transactions, which are
> B+C in this case. This gives us the same resulting mempool, with A and not
> B+C.

I agree here. Doing otherwise, we might evict other transactions mempool in `MempoolAccept::Finalize` with a higher-feerate than B+C while those evicted transactions are the most compelling for block construction.

I thought at first missing this acceptance requirement would break a fee-bumping scheme like Parent-Pay-For-Child where a high-fee parent is attached to a child signed with SIGHASH_ANYONECANPAY but in this case the child fee is capturing the parent value. I can't think of other fee-bumping schemes potentially affected. If they do exist I would say they're wrong in their design assumptions.

> If or when we have witness replacement, the logic is: if the individual
> transaction is enough to replace the mempool one, the replacement will
> happen during the preceding individual transaction acceptance, and
> deduplication logic will work. Otherwise, we will try to deduplicate by
> wtxid, see that we need a package witness replacement, and use the package
> feerate to evaluate whether this is economically rational.

IIUC, you have package A+B, during the dedup phase early in `AcceptMultipleTransactions` if you observe same-txid-different-wtixd A' and A' is higher feerate than A, you trim A and replace by A' ?

I think this approach is safe, the one who appears unsafe to me is when A' has a _lower_ feerate, even if A' is already accepted by our mempool ? In that case iirc that would be a pinning.

Good to see progress on witness replacement before we see usage of Taproot tree in the context of multi-party, where a malicious counterparty inflates its witness to jam a honest spending.

(Note, the commit linked currently points nowhere :))


> Please note that A may replace A' even if A' has higher fees than A
> individually, because the proposed package RBF utilizes the fees and size
> of the entire package. This just requires E to pay enough fees, although
> this can be pretty high if there are also potential B' and C' competing
> commitment transactions that we don't know about.

Ah right, if the package acceptance waives `PaysMoreThanConflicts` for the individual check on A, the honest package should replace the pinning attempt. I've not fully parsed the proposed implementation yet.

Though note, I think it's still unsafe for a Lightning multi-commitment-broadcast-as-one-package as a malicious A' might have an absolute fee higher than E. It sounds uneconomical for
an attacker but I think it's not when you consider than you can "batch" attack against multiple honest counterparties. E.g, Mallory broadcast A' + B' + C' + D' where A' conflicts with Alice's honest package P1, B' conflicts with Bob's honest package P2, C' conflicts with Caroll's honest package P3. And D' is a high-fee child of A' + B' + C'.

If D' is higher-fee than P1 or P2 or P3 but inferior to the sum of HTLCs confirmed by P1+P2+P3, I think it's lucrative for the attacker ?

> So far, my understanding is that multi-parent-1-child is desired for
> batched fee-bumping (
> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22674#issuecomment-897951289) and
> I've also seen your response which I have less context on (
> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22674#issuecomment-900352202). That
> being said, I am happy to create a new proposal for 1 parent + 1 child
> (which would be slightly simpler) and plan for moving to
> multi-parent-1-child later if that is preferred. I am very interested in
> hearing feedback on that approach.

I think batched fee-bumping is okay as long as you don't have time-sensitive outputs encumbering your commitment transactions. For the reasons mentioned above, I think that's unsafe.

What I'm worried about is  L2 developers, potentially not aware about all the mempool subtleties blurring the difference and always batching their broadcast by default.

IMO, a good thing by restraining to 1-parent + 1 child,  we artificially constraint L2 design space for now and minimize risks of unsafe usage of the package API :)

I think that's a point where it would be relevant to have the opinion of more L2 devs.

> I think there is a misunderstanding here - let me describe what I'm
> proposing we'd do in this situation: we'll try individual submission for A,
> see that it fails due to "insufficient fees." Then, we'll try package
> validation for A+B and use package RBF. If A+B pays enough, it can still
> replace A'. If A fails for a bad signature, we won't look at B or A+B. Does
> this meet your expectations?

Yes there was a misunderstanding, I think this approach is correct, it's more a question of performance. Do we assume that broadcasted packages are "honest" by default and that the parent(s) always need the child to pass the fee checks, that way saving the processing of individual transactions which are expected to fail in 99% of cases or more ad hoc composition of packages at relay ?

I think this point is quite dependent on the p2p packages format/logic we'll end up on and that we should feel free to revisit it later ?


> What problem are you trying to solve by the package feerate *after* dedup
rule ?
> My understanding is that an in-package transaction might be already in
the mempool. Therefore, to compute a correct RBF penalty replacement, the
vsize of this transaction could be discarded lowering the cost of package
RBF.

> I'm proposing that, when a transaction has already been submitted to
> mempool, we would ignore both its fees and vsize when calculating package
> feerate.

Yes, if you receive A+B, and A is already in-mempoo, I agree you can discard its feerate as B should pay for all fees checked on its own. Where I'm unclear is when you have in-mempool A+B and receive A+B'. Should B' have a fee high enough to cover the bandwidth penalty replacement (`PaysForRBF`, 2nd check) of both A+B' or only B' ?

If you have a second-layer like current Lightning, you might have a counterparty commitment to replace and should always expect to have to pay for parent replacement bandwidth.

Where a potential discount sounds interesting is when you have an univoque state on the first-stage of transactions. E.g DLC's funding transaction which might be CPFP by any participant iirc.

> Note that, if C' conflicts with C, it also conflicts with D, since D is a
> descendant of C and would thus need to be evicted along with it.

Ah once again I think it's a misunderstanding without the code under my eyes! If we do C' `PreChecks`, solve the conflicts provoked by it, i.e mark for potential eviction D and don't consider it for future conflicts in the rest of the package, I think D' `PreChecks` should be good ?

> More generally, this example is surprising to me because I didn't think
> packages would be used to fee-bump replaceable transactions. Do we want the
> child to be able to replace mempool transactions as well?

If we mean when you have replaceable A+B then A'+B' try to replace with a higher-feerate ? I think that's exactly the case we need for Lightning as A+B is coming from Alice and A'+B' is coming from Bob :/

> I'm not sure what you mean? Let's say we have a package of parent A + child
> B, where A is supposed to replace a mempool transaction A'. Are you saying
> that counterparties are able to malleate the package child B, or a child of
> A'?

The second option, a child of A', In the LN case I think the CPFP is attached on one's anchor output.

I think it's good if we assume the solve-conflicts-after-parent's`'PreChecks` mentioned above or fixing inherited signaling or full-rbf ?

> Sorry, I don't understand what you mean by "preserve the package
> integrity?" Could you elaborate?

After thinking the relaxation about the "new" unconfirmed input is not linked to trimming but I would say more to the multi-parent support.

Let's say you have A+B trying to replace C+D where B is also spending already in-mempool E. To succeed, you need to waive the no-new-unconfirmed input as D isn't spending E.

So good, I think we agree on the problem description here.

> I am in agreement with your calculations but unsure if we disagree on the
> expected outcome. Yes, B has an ancestor score of 10sat/vb and D has an
> ancestor score of ~2.9sat/vb. Since D's ancestor score is lower than B's,
> it fails the proposed package RBF Rule #2, so this package would be
> rejected. Does this meet your expectations?

Well what sounds odd to me, in my example, we fail D even if it has a higher-fee than B. Like A+B absolute fees are 2000 sats and A+C+D absolute fees are 4500 sats ?

Is this compatible with a model where a miner prioritizes absolute fees over ancestor score, in the case that mempools aren't full-enough to fulfill a block ?

Let me know if I can clarify a point.

Antoine

Le lun. 20 sept. 2021 à 11:10, Gloria Zhao <gloriajzhao@gmail.com> a écrit :

Hi Antoine,

First of all, thank you for the thorough review. I appreciate your insight on LN requirements.

> IIUC, you have a package A+B+C submitted for acceptance and A is already in your mempool. You trim out A from the package and then evaluate B+C.

> I think this might be an issue if A is the higher-fee element of the ABC package. B+C package fees might be under the mempool min fee and will be rejected, potentially breaking the acceptance expectations of the package issuer ?

Correct, if B+C is too low feerate to be accepted, we will reject it. I prefer this because it is incentive compatible: A can be mined by itself, so there's no reason to prefer A+B+C instead of A.
As another way of looking at this, consider the case where we do accept A+B+C and it sits at the "bottom" of our mempool. If our mempool reaches capacity, we evict the lowest descendant feerate transactions, which are B+C in this case. This gives us the same resulting mempool, with A and not B+C.


> Further, I think the dedup should be done on wtxid, as you might have multiple valid witnesses. Though with varying vsizes and as such offering different feerates.

I agree that variations of the same package with different witnesses is a case that must be handled. I consider witness replacement to be a project that can be done in parallel to package mempool acceptance because being able to accept packages does not worsen the problem of a same-txid-different-witness "pinning" attack.

If or when we have witness replacement, the logic is: if the individual transaction is enough to replace the mempool one, the replacement will happen during the preceding individual transaction acceptance, and deduplication logic will work. Otherwise, we will try to deduplicate by wtxid, see that we need a package witness replacement, and use the package feerate to evaluate whether this is economically rational.

See the #22290 "handle package transactions already in mempool" commit (https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22290/commits/fea75a2237b46cf76145242fecad7e274bfcb5ff), which handles the case of same-txid-different-witness by simply using the transaction in the mempool for now, with TODOs for what I just described.


> I'm not clearly understanding the accepted topologies. By "parent and child to share a parent", do you mean the set of transactions A, B, C, where B is spending A and C is spending A and B would be correct ?

Yes, that is what I meant. Yes, that would a valid package under these rules.

> If yes, is there a width-limit introduced or we fallback on MAX_PACKAGE_COUNT=25 ?

No, there is no limit on connectivity other than "child with all unconfirmed parents." We will enforce MAX_PACKAGE_COUNT=25 and child's in-mempool + in-package ancestor limits.


> Considering the current Core's mempool acceptance rules, I think CPFP batching is unsafe for LN time-sensitive closure. A malicious tx-relay jamming successful on one channel commitment transaction would contamine the remaining commitments sharing the same package.

> E.g, you broadcast the package A+B+C+D+E where A,B,C,D are commitment transactions and E a shared CPFP. If a malicious A' transaction has a better feerate than A, the whole package acceptance will fail. Even if A' confirms in the following block,
the propagation and confirmation of B+C+D have been delayed. This could carry on a loss of funds.

Please note that A may replace A' even if A' has higher fees than A individually, because the proposed package RBF utilizes the fees and size of the entire package. This just requires E to pay enough fees, although this can be pretty high if there are also potential B' and C' competing commitment transactions that we don't know about.


> IMHO, I'm leaning towards deploying during a first phase 1-parent/1-child. I think it's the most conservative step still improving second-layer safety.

So far, my understanding is that multi-parent-1-child is desired for batched fee-bumping (https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22674#issuecomment-897951289) and I've also seen your response which I have less context on (https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22674#issuecomment-900352202). That being said, I am happy to create a new proposal for 1 parent + 1 child (which would be slightly simpler) and plan for moving to multi-parent-1-child later if that is preferred. I am very interested in hearing feedback on that approach.


> If A+B is submitted to replace A', where A pays 0 sats, B pays 200 sats and A' pays 100 sats. If we apply the individual RBF on A, A+B acceptance fails. For this reason I think the individual RBF should be bypassed and only the package RBF apply ?

I think there is a misunderstanding here - let me describe what I'm proposing we'd do in this situation: we'll try individual submission for A, see that it fails due to "insufficient fees." Then, we'll try package validation for A+B and use package RBF. If A+B pays enough, it can still replace A'. If A fails for a bad signature, we won't look at B or A+B. Does this meet your expectations?


> What problem are you trying to solve by the package feerate *after* dedup rule ?
> My understanding is that an in-package transaction might be already in the mempool. Therefore, to compute a correct RBF penalty replacement, the vsize of this transaction could be discarded lowering the cost of package RBF.

I'm proposing that, when a transaction has already been submitted to mempool, we would ignore both its fees and vsize when calculating package feerate. In example G2, we shouldn't count M1 fees after its submission to mempool, since M1's fees have already been used to pay for its individual bandwidth, and it shouldn't be used again to pay for P2 and P3's bandwidth. We also shouldn't count its vsize, since it has already been paid for.


> I think this is a footgunish API, as if a package issuer send the multiple-parent-one-child package A,B,C,D where D is the child of A,B,C. Then try to broadcast the higher-feerate C'+D' package, it should be rejected. So it's breaking the naive broadcaster assumption that a higher-feerate/higher-fee package always replaces ?

Note that, if C' conflicts with C, it also conflicts with D, since D is a descendant of C and would thus need to be evicted along with it. Implicitly, D' would not be in conflict with D.
More generally, this example is surprising to me because I didn't think packages would be used to fee-bump replaceable transactions. Do we want the child to be able to replace mempool transactions as well? This can be implemented with a bit of additional logic.

> I think this is unsafe for L2s if counterparties have malleability of the child transaction. They can block your package replacement by opting-out from RBF signaling. IIRC, LN's "anchor output" presents such an ability.

I'm not sure what you mean? Let's say we have a package of parent A + child B, where A is supposed to replace a mempool transaction A'. Are you saying that counterparties are able to malleate the package child B, or a child of A'? If they can malleate a child of A', that shouldn't matter as long as A' is signaling replacement. This would be handled identically with full RBF and what Core currently implements.

> I think this is an issue brought by the trimming during the dedup phase. If we preserve the package integrity, only re-using the tx-level checks results of already in-mempool transactions to gain in CPU time we won't have this issue. Package childs can add unconfirmed inputs as long as they're in-package, the bip125 rule2 is only evaluated against parents ?

Sorry, I don't understand what you mean by "preserve the package integrity?" Could you elaborate?

> Let's say you have in-mempool A, B where A pays 10 sat/vb for 100 vbytes and B pays 10 sat/vb for 100 vbytes. You have the candidate replacement D spending both A and C where D pays 15sat/vb for 100 vbytes and C pays 1 sat/vb for 1000 vbytes.

> Package A + B ancestor score is 10 sat/vb.

> D has a higher feerate/absolute fee than B.

> Package A + C + D ancestor score is ~ 3 sat/vb ((A's 1000 sats + C's 1000 sats + D's 1500 sats) / A's 100 vb + C's 1000 vb + D's 100 vb)

I am in agreement with your calculations but unsure if we disagree on the expected outcome. Yes, B has an ancestor score of 10sat/vb and D has an ancestor score of ~2.9sat/vb. Since D's ancestor score is lower than B's, it fails the proposed package RBF Rule #2, so this package would be rejected. Does this meet your expectations?

Thank you for linking to projects that might be interested in package relay :)

Thanks,
Gloria

On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 12:16 AM Antoine Riard <antoine.riard@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Gloria,

> A package may contain transactions that are already in the mempool. We
> remove
> ("deduplicate") those transactions from the package for the purposes of
> package
> mempool acceptance. If a package is empty after deduplication, we do
> nothing.

IIUC, you have a package A+B+C submitted for acceptance and A is already in your mempool. You trim out A from the package and then evaluate B+C.

I think this might be an issue if A is the higher-fee element of the ABC package. B+C package fees might be under the mempool min fee and will be rejected, potentially breaking the acceptance expectations of the package issuer ?

Further, I think the dedup should be done on wtxid, as you might have multiple valid witnesses. Though with varying vsizes and as such offering different feerates.

E.g you're going to evaluate the package A+B and A' is already in your mempool with a bigger valid witness. You trim A based on txid, then you evaluate A'+B, which fails the fee checks. However, evaluating A+B would have been a success.

AFAICT, the dedup rationale would be to save on CPU time/IO disk, to avoid repeated signatures verification and parent UTXOs fetches ? Can we achieve the same goal by bypassing tx-level checks for already-in txn while conserving the package integrity for package-level checks ?

> Note that it's possible for the parents to be
> indirect
> descendants/ancestors of one another, or for parent and child to share a
> parent,
> so we cannot make any other topology assumptions.

I'm not clearly understanding the accepted topologies. By "parent and child to share a parent", do you mean the set of transactions A, B, C, where B is spending A and C is spending A and B would be correct ?

If yes, is there a width-limit introduced or we fallback on MAX_PACKAGE_COUNT=25 ?

IIRC, one rationale to come with this topology limitation was to lower the DoS risks when potentially deploying p2p packages.

Considering the current Core's mempool acceptance rules, I think CPFP batching is unsafe for LN time-sensitive closure. A malicious tx-relay jamming successful on one channel commitment transaction would contamine the remaining commitments sharing the same package.

E.g, you broadcast the package A+B+C+D+E where A,B,C,D are commitment transactions and E a shared CPFP. If a malicious A' transaction has a better feerate than A, the whole package acceptance will fail. Even if A' confirms in the following block,
the propagation and confirmation of B+C+D have been delayed. This could carry on a loss of funds.

That said, if you're broadcasting commitment transactions without time-sensitive HTLC outputs, I think the batching is effectively a fee saving as you don't have to duplicate the CPFP.

IMHO, I'm leaning towards deploying during a first phase 1-parent/1-child. I think it's the most conservative step still improving second-layer safety.

> *Rationale*:  It would be incorrect to use the fees of transactions that are
> already in the mempool, as we do not want a transaction's fees to be
> double-counted for both its individual RBF and package RBF.

I'm unsure about the logical order of the checks proposed.

If A+B is submitted to replace A', where A pays 0 sats, B pays 200 sats and A' pays 100 sats. If we apply the individual RBF on A, A+B acceptance fails. For this reason I think the individual RBF should be bypassed and only the package RBF apply ?

Note this situation is plausible, with current LN design, your counterparty can have a commitment transaction with a better fee just by selecting a higher `dust_limit_satoshis` than yours.

> Examples F and G [14] show the same package, but P1 is submitted
> individually before
> the package in example G. In example F, we can see that the 300vB package
> pays
> an additional 200sat in fees, which is not enough to pay for its own
> bandwidth
> (BIP125#4). In example G, we can see that P1 pays enough to replace M1, but
> using P1's fees again during package submission would make it look like a
> 300sat
> increase for a 200vB package. Even including its fees and size would not be
> sufficient in this example, since the 300sat looks like enough for the 300vB
> package. The calculcation after deduplication is 100sat increase for a
> package
> of size 200vB, which correctly fails BIP125#4. Assume all transactions have
> a
> size of 100vB.

What problem are you trying to solve by the package feerate *after* dedup rule ?

My understanding is that an in-package transaction might be already in the mempool. Therefore, to compute a correct RBF penalty replacement, the vsize of this transaction could be discarded lowering the cost of package RBF.

If we keep a "safe" dedup mechanism (see my point above), I think this discount is justified, as the validation cost of node operators is paid for ?

> The child cannot replace mempool transactions.

Let's say you issue package A+B, then package C+B', where B' is a child of both A and C. This rule fails the acceptance of C+B' ?

I think this is a footgunish API, as if a package issuer send the multiple-parent-one-child package A,B,C,D where D is the child of A,B,C. Then try to broadcast the higher-feerate C'+D' package, it should be rejected. So it's breaking the naive broadcaster assumption that a higher-feerate/higher-fee package always replaces ? And it might be unsafe in protocols where states are symmetric. E.g a malicious counterparty broadcasts first S+A, then you honestly broadcast S+B, where B pays better fees.

> All mempool transactions to be replaced must signal replaceability.

I think this is unsafe for L2s if counterparties have malleability of the child transaction. They can block your package replacement by opting-out from RBF signaling. IIRC, LN's "anchor output" presents such an ability.

I think it's better to either fix inherited signaling or move towards full-rbf.

> if a package parent has already been submitted, it would
> look
>like the child is spending a "new" unconfirmed input.

I think this is an issue brought by the trimming during the dedup phase. If we preserve the package integrity, only re-using the tx-level checks results of already in-mempool transactions to gain in CPU time we won't have this issue. Package childs can add unconfirmed inputs as long as they're in-package, the bip125 rule2 is only evaluated against parents ?

> However, we still achieve the same goal of requiring the
> replacement
> transactions to have a ancestor score at least as high as the original
> ones.

I'm not sure if this holds...

Let's say you have in-mempool A, B where A pays 10 sat/vb for 100 vbytes and B pays 10 sat/vb for 100 vbytes. You have the candidate replacement D spending both A and C where D pays 15sat/vb for 100 vbytes and C pays 1 sat/vb for 1000 vbytes.

Package A + B ancestor score is 10 sat/vb.

D has a higher feerate/absolute fee than B.

Package A + C + D ancestor score is ~ 3 sat/vb ((A's 1000 sats + C's 1000 sats + D's 1500 sats) /
A's 100 vb + C's 1000 vb + D's 100 vb)

Overall, this is a review through the lenses of LN requirements. I think other L2 protocols/applications
could be candidates to using package accept/relay such as:
* https://github.com/lightninglabs/pool
* https://github.com/discreetlogcontracts/dlcspecs
* https://github.com/bitcoin-teleport/teleport-transactions/
* https://github.com/sapio-lang/sapio
* https://github.com/commerceblock/mercury/blob/master/doc/statechains.md
* https://github.com/revault/practical-revault

Thanks for rolling forward the ball on this subject.

Antoine

Le jeu. 16 sept. 2021 à 03:55, Gloria Zhao via bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> a écrit :
Hi there,

I'm writing to propose a set of mempool policy changes to enable package
validation (in preparation for package relay) in Bitcoin Core. These would not
be consensus or P2P protocol changes. However, since mempool policy
significantly affects transaction propagation, I believe this is relevant for
the mailing list.

My proposal enables packages consisting of multiple parents and 1 child. If you
develop software that relies on specific transaction relay assumptions and/or
are interested in using package relay in the future, I'm very interested to hear
your feedback on the utility or restrictiveness of these package policies for
your use cases.

A draft implementation of this proposal can be found in [Bitcoin Core
PR#22290][1].

An illustrated version of this post can be found at
I have also linked the images below.

## Background

Feel free to skip this section if you are already familiar with mempool policy
and package relay terminology.

### Terminology Clarifications

* Package = an ordered list of related transactions, representable by a Directed
  Acyclic Graph.
* Package Feerate = the total modified fees divided by the total virtual size of
  all transactions in the package.
    - Modified fees = a transaction's base fees + fee delta applied by the user
      with `prioritisetransaction`. As such, we expect this to vary across
mempools.
    - Virtual Size = the maximum of virtual sizes calculated using [BIP141
      virtual size][2] and sigop weight. [Implemented here in Bitcoin Core][3].
    - Note that feerate is not necessarily based on the base fees and serialized
      size.

* Fee-Bumping = user/wallet actions that take advantage of miner incentives to
  boost a transaction's candidacy for inclusion in a block, including Child Pays
for Parent (CPFP) and [BIP125][12] Replace-by-Fee (RBF). Our intention in
mempool policy is to recognize when the new transaction is more economical to
mine than the original one(s) but not open DoS vectors, so there are some
limitations.

### Policy

The purpose of the mempool is to store the best (to be most incentive-compatible
with miners, highest feerate) candidates for inclusion in a block. Miners use
the mempool to build block templates. The mempool is also useful as a cache for
boosting block relay and validation performance, aiding transaction relay, and
generating feerate estimations.

Ideally, all consensus-valid transactions paying reasonable fees should make it
to miners through normal transaction relay, without any special connectivity or
relationships with miners. On the other hand, nodes do not have unlimited
resources, and a P2P network designed to let any honest node broadcast their
transactions also exposes the transaction validation engine to DoS attacks from
malicious peers.

As such, for unconfirmed transactions we are considering for our mempool, we
apply a set of validation rules in addition to consensus, primarily to protect
us from resource exhaustion and aid our efforts to keep the highest fee
transactions. We call this mempool _policy_: a set of (configurable,
node-specific) rules that transactions must abide by in order to be accepted
into our mempool. Transaction "Standardness" rules and mempool restrictions such
as "too-long-mempool-chain" are both examples of policy.

### Package Relay and Package Mempool Accept

In transaction relay, we currently consider transactions one at a time for
submission to the mempool. This creates a limitation in the node's ability to
determine which transactions have the highest feerates, since we cannot take
into account descendants (i.e. cannot use CPFP) until all the transactions are
in the mempool. Similarly, we cannot use a transaction's descendants when
considering it for RBF. When an individual transaction does not meet the mempool
minimum feerate and the user isn't able to create a replacement transaction
directly, it will not be accepted by mempools.

This limitation presents a security issue for applications and users relying on
time-sensitive transactions. For example, Lightning and other protocols create
UTXOs with multiple spending paths, where one counterparty's spending path opens
up after a timelock, and users are protected from cheating scenarios as long as
they redeem on-chain in time. A key security assumption is that all parties'
transactions will propagate and confirm in a timely manner. This assumption can
be broken if fee-bumping does not work as intended.

The end goal for Package Relay is to consider multiple transactions at the same
time, e.g. a transaction with its high-fee child. This may help us better
determine whether transactions should be accepted to our mempool, especially if
they don't meet fee requirements individually or are better RBF candidates as a
package. A combination of changes to mempool validation logic, policy, and
transaction relay allows us to better propagate the transactions with the
highest package feerates to miners, and makes fee-bumping tools more powerful
for users.

The "relay" part of Package Relay suggests P2P messaging changes, but a large
part of the changes are in the mempool's package validation logic. We call this
*Package Mempool Accept*.

### Previous Work

* Given that mempool validation is DoS-sensitive and complex, it would be
  dangerous to haphazardly tack on package validation logic. Many efforts have
been made to make mempool validation less opaque (see [#16400][4], [#21062][5],
[#22675][6], [#22796][7]).
* [#20833][8] Added basic capabilities for package validation, test accepts only
  (no submission to mempool).
* [#21800][9] Implemented package ancestor/descendant limit checks for arbitrary
  packages. Still test accepts only.
* Previous package relay proposals (see [#16401][10], [#19621][11]).

### Existing Package Rules

These are in master as introduced in [#20833][8] and [#21800][9]. I'll consider
them as "given" in the rest of this document, though they can be changed, since
package validation is test-accept only right now.

1. A package cannot exceed `MAX_PACKAGE_COUNT=25` count and
`MAX_PACKAGE_SIZE=101KvB` total size [8]

   *Rationale*: This is already enforced as mempool ancestor/descendant limits.
Presumably, transactions in a package are all related, so exceeding this limit
would mean that the package can either be split up or it wouldn't pass this
mempool policy.

2. Packages must be topologically sorted: if any dependencies exist between
transactions, parents must appear somewhere before children. [8]

3. A package cannot have conflicting transactions, i.e. none of them can spend
the same inputs. This also means there cannot be duplicate transactions. [8]

4. When packages are evaluated against ancestor/descendant limits in a test
accept, the union of all of their descendants and ancestors is considered. This
is essentially a "worst case" heuristic where every transaction in the package
is treated as each other's ancestor and descendant. [8]
Packages for which ancestor/descendant limits are accurately captured by this
heuristic: [19]

There are also limitations such as the fact that CPFP carve out is not applied
to package transactions. #20833 also disables RBF in package validation; this
proposal overrides that to allow packages to use RBF.

## Proposed Changes

The next step in the Package Mempool Accept project is to implement submission
to mempool, initially through RPC only. This allows us to test the submission
logic before exposing it on P2P.

### Summary

- Packages may contain already-in-mempool transactions.
- Packages are 2 generations, Multi-Parent-1-Child.
- Fee-related checks use the package feerate. This means that wallets can
create a package that utilizes CPFP.
- Parents are allowed to RBF mempool transactions with a set of rules similar
  to BIP125. This enables a combination of CPFP and RBF, where a
transaction's descendant fees pay for replacing mempool conflicts.

There is a draft implementation in [#22290][1]. It is WIP, but feedback is
always welcome.

### Details

#### Packages May Contain Already-in-Mempool Transactions

A package may contain transactions that are already in the mempool. We remove
("deduplicate") those transactions from the package for the purposes of package
mempool acceptance. If a package is empty after deduplication, we do nothing.

*Rationale*: Mempools vary across the network. It's possible for a parent to be
accepted to the mempool of a peer on its own due to differences in policy and
fee market fluctuations. We should not reject or penalize the entire package for
an individual transaction as that could be a censorship vector.

#### Packages Are Multi-Parent-1-Child

Only packages of a specific topology are permitted. Namely, a package is exactly
1 child with all of its unconfirmed parents. After deduplication, the package
may be exactly the same, empty, 1 child, 1 child with just some of its
unconfirmed parents, etc. Note that it's possible for the parents to be indirect
descendants/ancestors of one another, or for parent and child to share a parent,
so we cannot make any other topology assumptions.

*Rationale*: This allows for fee-bumping by CPFP. Allowing multiple parents
makes it possible to fee-bump a batch of transactions. Restricting packages to a
defined topology is also easier to reason about and simplifies the validation
logic greatly. Multi-parent-1-child allows us to think of the package as one big
transaction, where:

- Inputs = all the inputs of parents + inputs of the child that come from
  confirmed UTXOs
- Outputs = all the outputs of the child + all outputs of the parents that
  aren't spent by other transactions in the package

Examples of packages that follow this rule (variations of example A show some
possibilities after deduplication): ![image][15]

#### Fee-Related Checks Use Package Feerate

Package Feerate = the total modified fees divided by the total virtual size of
all transactions in the package.

To meet the two feerate requirements of a mempool, i.e., the pre-configured
minimum relay feerate (`minRelayTxFee`) and dynamic mempool minimum feerate, the
total package feerate is used instead of the individual feerate. The individual
transactions are allowed to be below feerate requirements if the package meets
the feerate requirements. For example, the parent(s) in the package can have 0
fees but be paid for by the child.

*Rationale*: This can be thought of as "CPFP within a package," solving the
issue of a parent not meeting minimum fees on its own. This allows L2
applications to adjust their fees at broadcast time instead of overshooting or
risking getting stuck/pinned.

We use the package feerate of the package *after deduplication*.

*Rationale*:  It would be incorrect to use the fees of transactions that are
already in the mempool, as we do not want a transaction's fees to be
double-counted for both its individual RBF and package RBF.

Examples F and G [14] show the same package, but P1 is submitted individually before
the package in example G. In example F, we can see that the 300vB package pays
an additional 200sat in fees, which is not enough to pay for its own bandwidth
(BIP125#4). In example G, we can see that P1 pays enough to replace M1, but
using P1's fees again during package submission would make it look like a 300sat
increase for a 200vB package. Even including its fees and size would not be
sufficient in this example, since the 300sat looks like enough for the 300vB
package. The calculcation after deduplication is 100sat increase for a package
of size 200vB, which correctly fails BIP125#4. Assume all transactions have a
size of 100vB.

#### Package RBF

If a package meets feerate requirements as a package, the parents in the
transaction are allowed to replace-by-fee mempool transactions. The child cannot
replace mempool transactions. Multiple transactions can replace the same
transaction, but in order to be valid, none of the transactions can try to
replace an ancestor of another transaction in the same package (which would thus
make its inputs unavailable).

*Rationale*: Even if we are using package feerate, a package will not propagate
as intended if RBF still requires each individual transaction to meet the
feerate requirements.

We use a set of rules slightly modified from BIP125 as follows:

##### Signaling (Rule #1)

All mempool transactions to be replaced must signal replaceability.

*Rationale*: Package RBF signaling logic should be the same for package RBF and
single transaction acceptance. This would be updated if single transaction
validation moves to full RBF.

##### New Unconfirmed Inputs (Rule #2)

A package may include new unconfirmed inputs, but the ancestor feerate of the
child must be at least as high as the ancestor feerates of every transaction
being replaced. This is contrary to BIP125#2, which states "The replacement
transaction may only include an unconfirmed input if that input was included in
one of the original transactions. (An unconfirmed input spends an output from a
currently-unconfirmed transaction.)"

*Rationale*: The purpose of BIP125#2 is to ensure that the replacement
transaction has a higher ancestor score than the original transaction(s) (see
[comment][13]). Example H [16] shows how adding a new unconfirmed input can lower the
ancestor score of the replacement transaction. P1 is trying to replace M1, and
spends an unconfirmed output of M2. P1 pays 800sat, M1 pays 600sat, and M2 pays
100sat. Assume all transactions have a size of 100vB. While, in isolation, P1
looks like a better mining candidate than M1, it must be mined with M2, so its
ancestor feerate is actually 4.5sat/vB.  This is lower than M1's ancestor
feerate, which is 6sat/vB.

In package RBF, the rule analogous to BIP125#2 would be "none of the
transactions in the package can spend new unconfirmed inputs." Example J [17] shows
why, if any of the package transactions have ancestors, package feerate is no
longer accurate. Even though M2 and M3 are not ancestors of P1 (which is the
replacement transaction in an RBF), we're actually interested in the entire
package. A miner should mine M1 which is 5sat/vB instead of M2, M3, P1, P2, and
P3, which is only 4sat/vB. The Package RBF rule cannot be loosened to only allow
the child to have new unconfirmed inputs, either, because it can still cause us
to overestimate the package's ancestor score.

However, enforcing a rule analogous to BIP125#2 would not only make Package RBF
less useful, but would also break Package RBF for packages with parents already
in the mempool: if a package parent has already been submitted, it would look
like the child is spending a "new" unconfirmed input. In example K [18], we're
looking to replace M1 with the entire package including P1, P2, and P3. We must
consider the case where one of the parents is already in the mempool (in this
case, P2), which means we must allow P3 to have new unconfirmed inputs. However,
M2 lowers the ancestor score of P3 to 4.3sat/vB, so we should not replace M1
with this package.

Thus, the package RBF rule regarding new unconfirmed inputs is less strict than
BIP125#2. However, we still achieve the same goal of requiring the replacement
transactions to have a ancestor score at least as high as the original ones. As
a result, the entire package is required to be a higher feerate mining candidate
than each of the replaced transactions.

Another note: the [comment][13] above the BIP125#2 code in the original RBF
implementation suggests that the rule was intended to be temporary.

##### Absolute Fee (Rule #3)

The package must increase the absolute fee of the mempool, i.e. the total fees
of the package must be higher than the absolute fees of the mempool transactions
it replaces. Combined with the CPFP rule above, this differs from BIP125 Rule #3
- an individual transaction in the package may have lower fees than the
  transaction(s) it is replacing. In fact, it may have 0 fees, and the child
pays for RBF.

##### Feerate (Rule #4)

The package must pay for its own bandwidth; the package feerate must be higher
than the replaced transactions by at least minimum relay feerate
(`incrementalRelayFee`). Combined with the CPFP rule above, this differs from
BIP125 Rule #4 - an individual transaction in the package can have a lower
feerate than the transaction(s) it is replacing. In fact, it may have 0 fees,
and the child pays for RBF.

##### Total Number of Replaced Transactions (Rule #5)

The package cannot replace more than 100 mempool transactions. This is identical
to BIP125 Rule #5.

### Expected FAQs

1. Is it possible for only some of the package to make it into the mempool?

   Yes, it is. However, since we evict transactions from the mempool by
descendant score and the package child is supposed to be sponsoring the fees of
its parents, the most common scenario would be all-or-nothing. This is
incentive-compatible. In fact, to be conservative, package validation should
begin by trying to submit all of the transactions individually, and only use the
package mempool acceptance logic if the parents fail due to low feerate.

2. Should we allow packages to contain already-confirmed transactions?

    No, for practical reasons. In mempool validation, we actually aren't able to
tell with 100% confidence if we are looking at a transaction that has already
confirmed, because we look up inputs using a UTXO set. If we have historical
block data, it's possible to look for it, but this is inefficient, not always
possible for pruning nodes, and unnecessary because we're not going to do
anything with the transaction anyway. As such, we already have the expectation
that transaction relay is somewhat "stateful" i.e. nobody should be relaying
transactions that have already been confirmed. Similarly, we shouldn't be
relaying packages that contain already-confirmed transactions.

[1]: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22290
[2]: https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/1f0b563738199ca60d32b4ba779797fc97d040fe/bip-0141.mediawiki#transaction-size-calculations
[3]: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/94f83534e4b771944af7d9ed0f40746f392eb75e/src/policy/policy.cpp#L282
[4]: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16400
[5]: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21062
[6]: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22675
[7]: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22796
[8]: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20833
[9]: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21800
[10]: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16401
[11]: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/19621
[12]: https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0125.mediawiki
[13]: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/6871/files#diff-34d21af3c614ea3cee120df276c9c4ae95053830d7f1d3deaf009a4625409ad2R1101-R1104
[14]: https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/25183001/133567078-075a971c-0619-4339-9168-b41fd2b90c28.png
[15]: https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/25183001/132856734-fc17da75-f875-44bb-b954-cb7a1725cc0d.png
[16]: https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/25183001/133567347-a3e2e4a8-ae9c-49f8-abb9-81e8e0aba224.png
[17]: https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/25183001/133567370-21566d0e-36c8-4831-b1a8-706634540af3.png
[18]: https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/25183001/133567444-bfff1142-439f-4547-800a-2ba2b0242bcb.png
[19]: https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/25183001/133456219-0bb447cb-dcb4-4a31-b9c1-7d86205b68bc.png
[20]: https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/25183001/132857787-7b7c6f56-af96-44c8-8d78-983719888c19.png
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