Re: [bitcoin-dev] bitcoin-dev list etiquette

From: Theo Chino <bitdev@theochino•com>
To: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] bitcoin-dev list etiquette
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 2015 18:12:53 -0400	[thread overview]
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Nelson,

Talking politics, Devs do day and night, however politics is also about
knocking on door and not sitting behind a keyboard writing a perl script to
spam the politicians with the same content. Politics is about maneuvering
to be in a position to get the elected official to do what you want because
if he don't, you will make sure it will not get elected next time.

I personally never could finish drilling into the code (which is very
elegantly written) because some New York idiot decided that Bitcoin was too
dangerous for society to handle. I had to stop playing with the code and
turn my attention elsewhere. *You can read the opinion of one of the idiot
here :
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/12/opinion/apple-google-when-phone-encryption-blocks-justice.html
<http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/12/opinion/apple-google-when-phone-encryption-blocks-justice.html>*

Theo

On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 5:54 PM, Nelson Castillo <nelsoneci@gmail•com>
wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 4:51 PM, Theo Chino via bitcoin-dev <
> bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>
>> And this is why I love Bitcoin, politics + technical = all in one.
>>
>
> If you think developers do not talk politics go read LKML... Politics are
> inevitable.
> I think the "I don't know enough to code (Bitcoin) but I think that"
> belongs somewhere else (This is the -dev list).
>
>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Theo Chino
>> https://www.facebook.com/groups/557495624389384 (politics in NYS about
>> bitcoin.)
>> http://frenchmorning.com/en/2014/08/18/french-robin-hood-bitcoin-new-york
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 5:19 PM, Hector Chu via bitcoin-dev <
>> bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Haha. Reminds me of when I asked Gavin earlier this year about whether
>>> he cared about politics and he replied that he only cared about and
>>> was responsible for the technicals. Little did he know he would
>>> unwittingly become the technical enabler for Mike's political
>>> shenanigans.
>>>
>>> On 19 August 2015 at 21:19, Eric Lombrozo via bitcoin-dev
>>> <bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>>> > Those who are too smart to engage in politics are punished by being
>>> governed
>>> > by those who are dumber.
>>> > - Plato
>>> >
>>> > On Aug 19, 2015, at 1:11 PM, Eric Lombrozo <elombrozo@gmail•com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Alex,
>>> >
>>> > With all due respect, right now the biggest challenge facing Bitcoin
>>> is not
>>> > technical but political. I would love to see this list go back to
>>> technical
>>> > discussions, but unfortunately, until this political stuff is
>>> resolved, even
>>> > technical discussion is purely philosophical as there’s little chance
>>> of
>>> > actually making good progress on consensus…which in a space where
>>> everything
>>> > depends on consensus pretty much makes everything else moot.
>>> >
>>> > On Aug 19, 2015, at 1:08 PM, Alex Morcos via bitcoin-dev
>>> > <bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > This is a message that I wrote and had hoped that all the core devs
>>> would
>>> > sign on to, but I failed to finish organizing it.  So I'll just say it
>>> from
>>> > myself.
>>> >
>>> > There has been a valuable discussion over the last several months
>>> regarding
>>> > a hard fork with respect to block size.  However the sheer volume of
>>> email
>>> > and proportion of discussion that is more philosophical than technical
>>> has
>>> > rendered this list almost unusable for its primary purpose of technical
>>> > discussion related to Bitcoin development.  Many of us share the blame
>>> for
>>> > letting the discourse run off topic to such a degree, and we hope that
>>> an
>>> > appeal for individual self restraint will allow this list to return to
>>> a
>>> > higher signal-to-noise ratio.
>>> > -Please consider the degree to which any email you send is related to
>>> > technical development before sending it.
>>> > -Please consider how many emails you are sending to this list
>>> regarding the
>>> > same topic.
>>> > This list is not appropriate for an endless back and forth debate on
>>> the
>>> > philosophical underpinnings of Bitcoin.  Although such a debate may be
>>> > worthwhile it should be taken to another forum for discussion.  Every
>>> email
>>> > you send is received by hundreds of developers who value their time as
>>> much
>>> > as you value yours.  If your intended audience isn't really the
>>> majority of
>>> > them, perhaps private communication would be more appropriate.
>>> >
>>> > Thanks,
>>> > Alex
>>> >
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