I guess every mailing list should have its own internal SNR discussions. My answer is to respond when something is off-topic and offer a different place for the topic. I haven't been doing that, partly because no one else has, but mostly because I figured I don't have a strong handle on what is off-topic and what isn't. Let's all start doing that. Of course, someone can object to the claim, "No, I don't think this is off-topic... blah blah blah," and people can respond. The norms will develop. It just requires some relative humility, courage, and honesty. On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 12:28 PM, Warren Togami Jr. via bitcoin-dev < bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: > FYI, a few developers including Wladimir, Greg, Peter Todd, Pieter, and > Alex Morcos have been discussing what to do about improving the signal > noise ratio on bitcoin-dev list. One proposal similar to this discussion > was to split it into multiple mailing lists. It was pointed out that the > less technical Bitcoin discussion list already existed in the past and > nobody used it. Generally the discussion went away from creating yet > another mailing list and toward instituting an on-topic guidelines for > bitcoin-dev. Gavin, Wladimir, and a few of the others agreed to a simple > few paragraphs written by Alex Morcos. IIRC Wladimir agreed to post it. > Has it been posted yet? > > On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 11:47 AM, Btc Drak via bitcoin-dev < > bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: > >> On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 3:20 PM, Jeff Garzik wrote: >> > bitcoin-dev for protocol discussion and bitcoin-core for Bitcoin Core >> > discussion? >> >> Well -dev or both, I dont particularly see a difference at the moment, >> and establishing two lists isnt really going to make a difference so >> long as Bitcoin Core is the reference client, which it is by defacto. >> The risk of having too many lists is interested stakeholders will miss >> a discussions. Normal protocol and core discussions are usually pretty >> low volume in any case. >> >> > As Jorge notes, a general discussion list has existed for a long time >> with >> > little use. >> >> I would suggest it's only because there havent been any rules for -dev >> that would force general discussion over to the bitcoin list. On IRC >> we regularly tell people in #bitcoin-dev they are OT and ask them to >> move to #bitcoin and as a result, -dev remains quite clear of chit >> chat, #bitcoin has a steady stream of general chatter. >> >> We could reduce the OT/noise of bitcoin-dev list considerably by >> offloading the non-technical/academic debate to the bitcoin list. It >> just needs a bit of shepherding. I am more than happy to help out. >> Especially if the list already exists, we should consider making a >> decision now. >> >> Who are the moderators for that list? Do we really want to use >> sourceforge or are there alternatives, like another list on >> linuxfoundation? >> >> ping @Warren. >> _______________________________________________ >> bitcoin-dev mailing list >> bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org >> https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev >> > > > _______________________________________________ > bitcoin-dev mailing list > bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev > > -- I like to provide some work at no charge to prove my value. Do you need a techie? I own Litmocracy and Meme Racing (in alpha). I'm the webmaster for The Voluntaryist which now accepts Bitcoin. I also code for The Dollar Vigilante . "He ought to find it more profitable to play by the rules" - Satoshi Nakamoto