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From: Billy Tetrud <billy.tetrud@gmail•com>
To: AdamISZ <AdamISZ@protonmail•com>
Cc: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion <bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Draft-BIP: Ordinal Numbers
Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2022 09:56:24 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGpPWDZxynGhOE7PpQ0sChvBODrM2k47KP6dRDu06oNUFJGyKA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
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> El Gamal commitments, for example, are perfectly binding but only
computationally hiding.

That's very interesting. I stand corrected in that respect. Thanks for the
information Adam!

On Fri, Feb 25, 2022, 05:17 AdamISZ <AdamISZ@protonmail•com> wrote:

> > I really don't see a world where bitcoin goes that route. Hiding coin
> amounts would make it impossible to audit the blockchain and verify that
> there hasn't been inflation and the emission schedule is on schedule. It
> would inherently remove unconditional soundness from bitcoin and replace it
> with computational soundness. Even if bitcoin did adopt it, it would keep
> backwards compatibility with old style addresses which could continue to
> use ordinals.
>
> Nit: it isn't technically correct to say that amount hiding "inherently
> removes unconditional soundness". Such commitments can be either perfectly
> hiding or perfectly binding; it isn't even logically possible for them to
> be both, sadly. But we are not forced to choose perfect binding; El Gamal
> commitments, for example, are perfectly binding but only computationally
> hiding.
>

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  reply	other threads:[~2022-02-25 15:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-23  0:43 Casey Rodarmor
2022-02-23  7:02 ` damian
2022-02-23  7:10   ` Casey Rodarmor
2022-02-23  7:24   ` damian
2022-02-23  7:31     ` Casey Rodarmor
2022-02-24  2:34       ` damian
2022-02-24 15:55         ` Billy Tetrud
2022-02-24 21:03           ` Casey Rodarmor
2022-02-25  4:59             ` Billy Tetrud
2022-02-25 11:17               ` AdamISZ
2022-02-25 15:56                 ` Billy Tetrud [this message]
2022-02-24  7:02   ` vjudeu
2022-02-24  7:17     ` Casey Rodarmor
2022-02-24 17:52 vjudeu
2022-02-24 21:02 ` Casey Rodarmor

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