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From: James MacWhyte <keatonatron@gmail•com>
To: rhavar@protonmail•com
Cc: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion <bitcoin-dev@lists•linuxfoundation.org>
Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] bustapay BIP :: a practical sender/receiver coinjoin protocol
Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2019 12:58:03 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAH+Axy77+OTZ12=FFhrdg-1xznKjVQUT58mP6yjVbt7sWtgA7g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
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On Tue, Jan 29, 2019 at 6:46 PM <rhavar@protonmail•com> wrote:

>
> If the sender refuses to sign the final transaction, the receiver just
> propagates the template transaction which pays the receiver! So it's a
> pretty weak attack.
>
> The only real attack is that the sender could double-spend the
> template-transaction before it's propagated, but the cost of doing this
> isn't free, as at the very least you need to pay the transaction fees of
> creating a double spend. It's not an amazingly good defence, but it's good
> enough that it's unlikely to get abused (and an attacker would only learn a
> single utxo of the receiver) .
>

Okay, I see what you mean. I better understand the weaknesses you've
identified, and I can't really think of a better solution than what you've
proposed. I also realized that implementors who aren't capable of
integrating signing and UTXO validation wouldn't be the ones trying to
implement this feature, so my concerns there are also moot. Carry on ;)

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  reply	other threads:[~2019-01-30 20:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-08-30 20:24 rhavar
2018-09-10 12:30 ` Sjors Provoost
2018-09-10 15:49   ` rhavar
2019-01-25 14:47 ` Adam Gibson
2019-01-27  7:36   ` rhavar
2019-01-27 12:20     ` Adam Gibson
2019-01-27 19:24       ` rhavar
2019-01-27 19:42       ` James MacWhyte
2019-01-27 22:11         ` rhavar
2019-01-30  2:06           ` James MacWhyte
2019-01-30  2:46             ` rhavar
2019-01-30 20:58               ` James MacWhyte [this message]
2019-01-28  4:14     ` ZmnSCPxj
2019-01-28 13:19       ` Adam Gibson
2019-01-30  8:34         ` ZmnSCPxj

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