From: Yifu Guo <yifu@coinapex•com>
To: Tom Harding <tomh@thinlink•com>
Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-development@lists•sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Mining centralization pressure from non-uniform propagation speed
Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2015 21:31:00 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAHcfU-WQAqz_tEUSho3TVBdaF8qW=uLZ+eVXb4eiGDDZy9w9ZA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55833F87.3090408@thinlink.com>
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Nice insight Peter,
This further confirms the real problem, which doesn't have much to do with
blocksize but rather the connectivity of nodes in countries with
not-so-friendly internet policies and deceptive connectivity.
On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Tom Harding <tomh@thinlink•com> wrote:
> On 06/12/2015 06:51 PM, Pieter Wuille wrote:
> >> However, it does very clearly show the effects of
> >> larger blocks on centralization pressure of the system.
>
> On 6/14/2015 10:45 AM, Jonas Nick wrote:
> > This means that your scenario is not the result of a cartel but the
> result of a long-term network partition.
> >
>
> Pieter, to Jonas' point, in your scenario the big miners are all part of
> the majority partition, so "centralization pressure" (pressure to merge
> with a big miner) cannot be separated from "pressure to be connected to
> the majority partition".
>
> I ran your simulation with a large (20%) miner in a 20% minority
> partition, and 16 small (5%) miners in a majority 80% partition, well
> connected. The starting point was your recent update, which had a more
> realistic "slow link" speed of 100 Mbit/s (making all of the effects
> smaller).
>
> To summarize the results across both your run and mine:
>
> ** Making small blocks when others are making big ones -> BAD
> ** As above, and fees are enormous -> VERY BAD
>
> ** Being separated by a slow link from majority hash power -> BAD
>
> ** Being a small miner with blocksize=20MB -> *NOT BAD*
>
>
> Configuration:
> * Miner group 0: 20.000000% hashrate, blocksize 20000000.000000
> * Miner group 1: 80.000000% hashrate, blocksize 1000000.000000
> * Expected average block size: 4800000.000000
> * Average fee per block: 0.250000
> * Fee per byte: 0.0000000521
> Result:
> * Miner group 0: 20.404704% income (factor 1.020235 with hashrate)
> * Miner group 1: 79.595296% income (factor 0.994941 with hashrate)
>
> Configuration:
> * Miner group 0: 20.000000% hashrate, blocksize 20000000.000000
> * Miner group 1: 80.000000% hashrate, blocksize 20000000.000000
> * Expected average block size: 20000000.000000
> * Average fee per block: 0.250000
> * Fee per byte: 0.0000000125
> Result:
> * Miner group 0: 19.864232% income (factor 0.993212 with hashrate)
> * Miner group 1: 80.135768% income (factor 1.001697 with hashrate)
>
> Configuration:
> * Miner group 0: 20.000000% hashrate, blocksize 20000000.000000
> * Miner group 1: 80.000000% hashrate, blocksize 1000000.000000
> * Expected average block size: 4800000.000000
> * Average fee per block: 25.000000
> * Fee per byte: 0.0000052083
> Result:
> * Miner group 0: 51.316895% income (factor 2.565845 with hashrate)
> * Miner group 1: 48.683105% income (factor 0.608539 with hashrate)
>
> Configuration:
> * Miner group 0: 20.000000% hashrate, blocksize 20000000.000000
> * Miner group 1: 80.000000% hashrate, blocksize 20000000.000000
> * Expected average block size: 20000000.000000
> * Average fee per block: 25.000000
> * Fee per byte: 0.0000012500
> Result:
> * Miner group 0: 19.865943% income (factor 0.993297 with hashrate)
> * Miner group 1: 80.134057% income (factor 1.001676 with hashrate)
>
>
>
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prev parent reply other threads:[~2015-06-19 1:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2015-06-12 16:51 Pieter Wuille
2015-06-12 17:21 ` Gavin Andresen
2015-06-12 18:30 ` Peter Todd
2015-06-12 18:39 ` Pieter Wuille
2015-06-12 18:01 ` Peter Todd
2015-06-12 18:24 ` Mike Hearn
2015-06-12 18:26 ` Pieter Wuille
2015-06-12 18:27 ` Mike Hearn
2015-06-14 17:45 ` Jonas Nick
2015-06-18 22:00 ` Tom Harding
2015-06-19 1:31 ` Yifu Guo [this message]
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