Nice insight Peter, This further confirms the real problem, which doesn't have much to do with blocksize but rather the connectivity of nodes in countries with not-so-friendly internet policies and deceptive connectivity. On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Tom Harding wrote: > On 06/12/2015 06:51 PM, Pieter Wuille wrote: > >> However, it does very clearly show the effects of > >> larger blocks on centralization pressure of the system. > > On 6/14/2015 10:45 AM, Jonas Nick wrote: > > This means that your scenario is not the result of a cartel but the > result of a long-term network partition. > > > > Pieter, to Jonas' point, in your scenario the big miners are all part of > the majority partition, so "centralization pressure" (pressure to merge > with a big miner) cannot be separated from "pressure to be connected to > the majority partition". > > I ran your simulation with a large (20%) miner in a 20% minority > partition, and 16 small (5%) miners in a majority 80% partition, well > connected. The starting point was your recent update, which had a more > realistic "slow link" speed of 100 Mbit/s (making all of the effects > smaller). > > To summarize the results across both your run and mine: > > ** Making small blocks when others are making big ones -> BAD > ** As above, and fees are enormous -> VERY BAD > > ** Being separated by a slow link from majority hash power -> BAD > > ** Being a small miner with blocksize=20MB -> *NOT BAD* > > > Configuration: > * Miner group 0: 20.000000% hashrate, blocksize 20000000.000000 > * Miner group 1: 80.000000% hashrate, blocksize 1000000.000000 > * Expected average block size: 4800000.000000 > * Average fee per block: 0.250000 > * Fee per byte: 0.0000000521 > Result: > * Miner group 0: 20.404704% income (factor 1.020235 with hashrate) > * Miner group 1: 79.595296% income (factor 0.994941 with hashrate) > > Configuration: > * Miner group 0: 20.000000% hashrate, blocksize 20000000.000000 > * Miner group 1: 80.000000% hashrate, blocksize 20000000.000000 > * Expected average block size: 20000000.000000 > * Average fee per block: 0.250000 > * Fee per byte: 0.0000000125 > Result: > * Miner group 0: 19.864232% income (factor 0.993212 with hashrate) > * Miner group 1: 80.135768% income (factor 1.001697 with hashrate) > > Configuration: > * Miner group 0: 20.000000% hashrate, blocksize 20000000.000000 > * Miner group 1: 80.000000% hashrate, blocksize 1000000.000000 > * Expected average block size: 4800000.000000 > * Average fee per block: 25.000000 > * Fee per byte: 0.0000052083 > Result: > * Miner group 0: 51.316895% income (factor 2.565845 with hashrate) > * Miner group 1: 48.683105% income (factor 0.608539 with hashrate) > > Configuration: > * Miner group 0: 20.000000% hashrate, blocksize 20000000.000000 > * Miner group 1: 80.000000% hashrate, blocksize 20000000.000000 > * Expected average block size: 20000000.000000 > * Average fee per block: 25.000000 > * Fee per byte: 0.0000012500 > Result: > * Miner group 0: 19.865943% income (factor 0.993297 with hashrate) > * Miner group 1: 80.134057% income (factor 1.001676 with hashrate) > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > _______________________________________________ > Bitcoin-development mailing list > Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development > -- *Yifu Guo* *"Life is an everlasting self-improvement."*