public inbox for bitcoindev@googlegroups.com
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Rick Wesson <rick@support-intelligence•com>
To: timo.hanke@web•de
Cc: bitcoin-development@lists•sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Blockchain as root CA for payment protocol
Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2013 11:39:03 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJ1JLtsAC5mxAXCdGBh_6byuLmjxc5kBrK6HMeDWwbXCRc5UWw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130208100354.GA26627@crunch>

[-- Attachment #1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2911 bytes --]

I prefer to leverage the signing of the (.) root in the DNS tree. The
amount of effort in signing the root holds more weight than building a CA
off the bitcoin blockchain.

If you want to associate identifiers for payment addresses I suggest
putting those in DNSSEC signed records in the DNS.

For routing around x.509 CAs I suggest participating in the DANE working
group in the IETF.

-rick


On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 2:03 AM, Timo Hanke <timo.hanke@web•de> wrote:

> There have been proposals to use the blockchain to establish
> "identities". firstbits is a simple example. I would like to announce a
> project that extends this idea to turn the blockchain into a "root CA"
> that can sign arbitrary certificates. The purpose is to use these
> certificates in the payment protocol, where some might consider
> traditional centralized root CAs unsatisfactory.
>
> Code is here: https://github.com/bcpki
>
> Technical specification and full-length examples are found in the wiki.
> I therefore spare myself from repeating the details here, even though,
> of course, discussion about those details is welcome on this list.
>
> Excerpt from README.md follows:
>
> First, we have drafted a quite general specification for bitcoin
> certificates (protobuf messages) that allow for a variety of payment
> protocols (e.g. static as well as customer-side-generated payment
> addresses).
> This part has surely been done elsewhere as well and is orthogonal to the
> goal of this project.
> What is new here is the signatures _under_ the certificates.
>
> We have patched the bitcoind to handle certificates, submit signatures to
> the blockchain, verify certificates against the blockchain, pay directly to
> certificates (with various payment methods), revoke certificates.
> Signatures in the blockchain are stored entirely in the UTXO set (i.e. the
> unspend, unprunable outputs).
> This seems to make signature lookup and verification reasonably fast:
> it took us 10s in the mainnet test we performed (lookup is instant on the
> testnet, of course).
>
> Payment methods include: static bitcoin addresses, client-side derived
> payment addresses (pay-to-contract), pay-to-contract with multisig
> destinations (P2SH)
>
> Full-length real-world examples for all payment methods are provided in
> the tutorial pages.
> These examples have actually been carried out on testnet3.
>
> For further details and specifications see the wiki.
>
> timo hanke
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Free Next-Gen Firewall Hardware Offer
> Buy your Sophos next-gen firewall before the end March 2013
> and get the hardware for free! Learn more.
> http://p.sf.net/sfu/sophos-d2d-feb
> _______________________________________________
> Bitcoin-development mailing list
> Bitcoin-development@lists•sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development
>

[-- Attachment #2: Type: text/html, Size: 3655 bytes --]

      parent reply	other threads:[~2013-02-11 20:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 8+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-02-08 10:03 Timo Hanke
2013-02-08 11:01 ` Peter Todd
2013-02-09 14:33   ` Timo Hanke
2013-02-09 19:01     ` Luke-Jr
2013-02-11 19:12       ` Timo Hanke
2013-02-11 19:21         ` Gregory Maxwell
2013-02-11 11:21     ` Peter Todd
2013-02-11 19:39 ` Rick Wesson [this message]

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=CAJ1JLtsAC5mxAXCdGBh_6byuLmjxc5kBrK6HMeDWwbXCRc5UWw@mail.gmail.com \
    --to=rick@support-intelligence$(echo .)com \
    --cc=bitcoin-development@lists$(echo .)sourceforge.net \
    --cc=timo.hanke@web$(echo .)de \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is a public inbox, see mirroring instructions
for how to clone and mirror all data and code used for this inbox