Correct. I should have said "more likely to be deterministic" Bitcoin Core does not *rely* on determinism in BIP70; I was referring to recent upstream efforts to make protobufs usable in a deterministic fashion by default. On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 3:03 PM, Alan Reiner wrote: > I'm a bit confused. It's been a long time since I looked at protobuf > (and will have to dig into it soon), but I seem to recall it doesn't have > any of the determinism properties you guys just said. It is intended to > allow you to skip details of the on-the-wire representations and just send > a bunch of named fields between systems. I thought there was no guarantee > that two identical protobuf structures will get serialized identically...? > > > > > > On 01/19/2015 02:57 PM, Richard Brady wrote: > > Thanks guys, great answers. > > The design choice certainly makes a lot more sense now regardless of > whether one agrees with it or not. > > Regards, > Richard > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > New Year. New Location. New Benefits. New Data Center in Ashburn, VA. > GigeNET is offering a free month of service with a new server in Ashburn. > Choose from 2 high performing configs, both with 100TB of bandwidth. > Higher redundancy.Lower latency.Increased capacity.Completely compliant.http://p.sf.net/sfu/gigenet > > > > _______________________________________________ > Bitcoin-development mailing listBitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.nethttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > New Year. New Location. New Benefits. New Data Center in Ashburn, VA. > GigeNET is offering a free month of service with a new server in Ashburn. > Choose from 2 high performing configs, both with 100TB of bandwidth. > Higher redundancy.Lower latency.Increased capacity.Completely compliant. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/gigenet > _______________________________________________ > Bitcoin-development mailing list > Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development > > -- Jeff Garzik Bitcoin core developer and open source evangelist BitPay, Inc. https://bitpay.com/