From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@bitpay•com>
To: Andreas Schildbach <andreas@schildbach•de>
Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-development@lists•sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Payment Protocol: BIP 70, 71, 72
Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2013 10:31:19 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJHLa0NbEjnQ2V8HPjVfC_mZ33ojMBMQP2i90KvmEsZik7h3kA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <l1uj7g$vds$1@ger.gmane.org>
BitPay experimented with QR codes in low light, restaurant and other
conditions. QR codes become difficult to use even at 100 chars.
On the merchant side, we prefer a short URL that speaks payment
protocol if visited via bitcoin client, but will gracefully work if
scanned by a phone with zero bitcoin support -- you will simply be
redirected to a BitPay invoice page for a normal browser.
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 7:59 AM, Andreas Schildbach
<andreas@schildbach•de> wrote:
> On 09/25/2013 01:45 PM, Mike Hearn wrote:
>
>> OK, it might fit if you don't use any of the features the protocol
>> provides :)
>
> Now you're dver-dramaticing (-:
>
> I'm just skipping one feature which I think is useless for QR codes
> scanned in person.
>
>> You can try it here:
>
> Thanks. A typical request would be around 60 bytes, which should produce
> an URL with around 100 chars. That should be fine for scanning, but I
> will experiment.
>
>> If you're thinking about governments and so on subverting CA's, then
>> there is a plan for handling that (outside the Bitcoin world) called
>> certificate transparency which is being implemented now.
>
> Good to hear. Let's see if it gets momentum.
>
>> Now when you are getting a QR code from the web, it's already being
>> served over HTTPS. So if you're up against an attacker who can break a
>> CA in order to steal your money, then you already lose, the QRcode
>> itself as MITMd.
>
> Sure. I was talking about QR codes scanned in person.
>
>> In the Bluetooth case we might have to keep the address around and use
>> it to do ECDHE or something like that.
>
> Yeah, will look at that as soon as we're implementing the payment
> protocol fully.
>
>
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-09-25 14:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-07-31 6:28 Gavin Andresen
2013-07-31 8:45 ` Roy Badami
[not found] ` <CABsx9T3Xvnw2H6awgnT7mr-HzJOqCp_nOVM57BD-B9mY4R43aQ@mail.gmail.com>
2013-07-31 11:33 ` Gavin Andresen
2013-07-31 11:45 ` Melvin Carvalho
2013-07-31 23:30 ` E willbefull
2013-07-31 23:38 ` Gavin Andresen
2013-07-31 23:52 ` E willbefull
2013-08-07 20:12 ` Roy Badami
2013-07-31 8:59 ` Mike Hearn
2013-07-31 11:19 ` Gavin Andresen
2013-08-07 20:31 ` Pieter Wuille
2013-08-07 21:10 ` Gavin Andresen
2013-08-07 21:17 ` Mike Hearn
2013-08-07 21:36 ` Pieter Wuille
2013-08-07 21:44 ` Mike Hearn
2013-08-07 21:49 ` Pieter Wuille
2013-08-07 21:28 ` Roy Badami
2013-08-07 21:47 ` Alan Reiner
2013-08-14 10:56 ` Jouke Hofman
2013-08-07 21:47 ` Roy Badami
2013-08-07 21:54 ` Pieter Wuille
2013-08-07 22:03 ` Roy Badami
2013-08-08 0:48 ` Gavin Andresen
2013-08-08 9:13 ` Mike Hearn
2013-08-08 14:13 ` Pieter Wuille
2013-08-19 22:15 ` Andreas Petersson
2013-08-19 23:19 ` Gavin Andresen
2013-08-20 10:05 ` Mike Hearn
2013-09-24 13:52 ` Mike Hearn
2013-09-24 23:35 ` Gavin Andresen
2013-09-25 9:27 ` Mike Hearn
2013-09-25 10:28 ` Andreas Schildbach
2013-09-25 11:15 ` Mike Hearn
2013-09-25 11:33 ` Andreas Schildbach
2013-09-25 11:45 ` Mike Hearn
2013-09-25 11:59 ` Andreas Schildbach
2013-09-25 14:31 ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2013-09-25 14:38 ` Mike Hearn
2013-09-25 11:35 ` Melvin Carvalho
2013-09-25 16:12 ` The Doctor
2013-09-26 6:37 ` Peter Todd
2013-09-25 14:26 ` Jeff Garzik
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