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From: Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@bitpay•com>
To: Pieter Wuille <pieter.wuille@gmail•com>
Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-development@lists•sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Scaling Bitcoin with Subchains
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 13:15:14 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJHLa0OJg2hC4Ab4Yxy3ekH4WXD9hqHore8+sbF9r1r2SwT_zg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAPg+sBjrSed4r+8-d2RGBVhbzaXxX+o=qqw2u-2jpF2RUqmEmA@mail.gmail.com>

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On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 1:09 PM, Pieter Wuille <pieter.wuille@gmail•com>
wrote:

> It's simple: either you care about validation, and you must validate
> everything, or you don't, and you don't validate anything. Sidechains do
> not offer you a useful compromise here, as well as adding huge delays and
> conplexity.
>

As noted to Adam last night - although I agree it adds complexity - side
chains are one solution that will indeed help with scaling long term.
Similar to the graph you see with git repos and merges, having aggregation
chains that arbitrarily fork and then rejoin the main chain are both
feasible and useful.

That code & future is a ways away from production, so doesn't help us
here.  Still, let's not dismiss it as a solution either.

-- 
Jeff Garzik
Bitcoin core developer and open source evangelist
BitPay, Inc.      https://bitpay.com/

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-06-15 17:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-20  2:55 Andrew
2015-05-25 18:15 ` Mike Hearn
2015-05-28  2:16   ` Andrew
2015-05-28  2:34     ` Bryan Bishop
2015-06-13 14:39 ` Pieter Wuille
2015-06-13 17:55   ` Andrew
2015-06-14  6:55   ` Martin Schwarz
2015-06-15 17:05     ` Andrew
2015-06-15 17:09       ` Pieter Wuille
2015-06-15 17:15         ` Jeff Garzik [this message]
2015-06-16 18:17           ` Peter Todd
2015-06-16 18:43             ` Andrew
2015-06-16 19:04               ` Andrew
2015-06-15 17:18         ` Mike Hearn
2015-06-15 18:00           ` Andrew
2015-06-16 15:23             ` Andrew
2015-06-15 18:01           ` Jeff Garzik

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